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Tuesday, 01 December 2009 10:02 am
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On NHL10, Mike Rupp is some slow-as-balls joke on your fourth line. When you play the Computer on Superstar Mode, you need speed, speed, and more speed. You immediately substitute Chris Conner and Luca Caputi for Rupp and Eric Godard. But if video games were a true imitation of life, every male between the ages of 18-40 would be a World War II veteran. Or maybe you just play Deer Hunter, sitting around on your tree stand couch waiting for animals to walk by. Don't hurt yourself.
So, when Mike Rupp shows up at MSG on a lazy Monday evening and is the number-one star on a night when both Crosby and Marian Gaborik have two goals, you know Rupp either gave some kid with AIDS a puck during warm-ups or he had an unreal game.
After getting boarded and seemingly injuring his knee, Rupp heroically returned to score the eventual game-winning goal, and then he added another one to complete the hat trick. With those three goals, Rupp bounces his goal total this season to 8, while not having scored more than 6 goals in any season prior to this.
But it isn't just his goal scoring. Rupp is a boss. After someone douches one of his teamates, Rupp is the first one to stick up for him. Basically, Rupp is terrifying.
For the Pens, they take two straight games from the Rangers, not even allowing the Rangers to squeak out a point in overtime; a quick 8-point swing just like that.
After the jump, there is an actual recap.
And the truth behind the end of the Branch Bourque-Davidian standoff is revealed.
So, when Mike Rupp shows up at MSG on a lazy Monday evening and is the number-one star on a night when both Crosby and Marian Gaborik have two goals, you know Rupp either gave some kid with AIDS a puck during warm-ups or he had an unreal game.
After getting boarded and seemingly injuring his knee, Rupp heroically returned to score the eventual game-winning goal, and then he added another one to complete the hat trick. With those three goals, Rupp bounces his goal total this season to 8, while not having scored more than 6 goals in any season prior to this.
Best return from a knee injury since Rod Woodson.
Thanks to PSAMP for this.
But it isn't just his goal scoring. Rupp is a boss. After someone douches one of his teamates, Rupp is the first one to stick up for him. Basically, Rupp is terrifying.
For the Pens, they take two straight games from the Rangers, not even allowing the Rangers to squeak out a point in overtime; a quick 8-point swing just like that.
After the jump, there is an actual recap.
And the truth behind the end of the Branch Bourque-Davidian standoff is revealed.
pliefeld and Allison
MALKIN MILITIA was in the building.
Easy E's unreal seat at MSG.
The best part about playing the Rangers these days is John Tortohomo.
Speaking of coaches, this was Disco's first time as Pens coach in MSG? Bizarre, but true.
If Madison Square Garden was located on Sesame Street and not 33rd Street, the first period would've been brought to you by the letters M, A, and F. He had to weather an unreal storm early on, a storm which consisted of Sean Avery trying to teabag him. Gonch and Orpik were all business.
Speaking of coaches, this was Disco's first time as Pens coach in MSG? Bizarre, but true.
If Madison Square Garden was located on Sesame Street and not 33rd Street, the first period would've been brought to you by the letters M, A, and F. He had to weather an unreal storm early on, a storm which consisted of Sean Avery trying to teabag him. Gonch and Orpik were all business.
It was good back-and-forth action, except there was no "forth."
The Pens' only chance in the opening minutes was Bing shooting a puck at the goal light.
Bourque buries it. Or kills a baby in the crowd.
Speaking of lights, MSG was its usual 80-watt-dimmed self.
Some Ranger hits the pipe. The sound echoes in the dead MSG.
Dan Girardi goes to the box for a tripping penalty, but no go on the powerplay.
Malkin makes a sick feed to Guerin.
Rozsival is there with the toe save, somehow managing to take another minus from 2002 in the process.
Then an underrated play unfolded as Skoula breaks his stick trying to dump in the puck as the powerplay ends and the Rangers break the other way. He somehow materializes another stick out of thin air from the bench. It was seamless.
Some Ranger hits the pipe. The sound echoes in the dead MSG.
Dan Girardi goes to the box for a tripping penalty, but no go on the powerplay.
Malkin makes a sick feed to Guerin.
Rozsival is there with the toe save, somehow managing to take another minus from 2002 in the process.
Then an underrated play unfolded as Skoula breaks his stick trying to dump in the puck as the powerplay ends and the Rangers break the other way. He somehow materializes another stick out of thin air from the bench. It was seamless.
By the tail end of the period, the Pens found themselves with the lead in shots. But King Henrik was no joke.
Which New York State team would be more lost without their goalie -- Buffalo or the Rangers?
Somewhere in there, Brian Boyle jobs Eaton. That started some chirping.
Godard and Rupp come out for the next shift.
Boyle shirks away from Godard.
Brashear was nowhere to be found.
Then Orpik love-taps Gaborik after a whistle.
Then Brashear makes an appearance, jobbing 4'7" Tyler Kennedy.
Brashear is a nuisance. He was annoying.
So it's time to play Wheel Of Fortune.
Pens had a PP from Brashear being a nagger, but they wouldn't connect.
Wayne Gretzky was in the building.
The final piece of evidence in the great 66 vs. 99 debate is this:
Mario Lemeiux saved the Penguins franchise for the city of Pittsburgh and runs the Mario Lemeiux Foundation, a charity that does unbelievable amounts of good work.
Gretzky's great after-hockey project? A winery. No joke.
Mario Lemeiux saved the Penguins franchise for the city of Pittsburgh and runs the Mario Lemeiux Foundation, a charity that does unbelievable amounts of good work.
Gretzky's great after-hockey project? A winery. No joke.
This is our desktop wallpaper for the next 32 seconds.
Early in the second, the Rangers connect.
Gaborik builds a condo in front of MAF. 1-0.
Then he does some unreal fist pump.
Three seconds later, it was tied.
The Guerin Play™, as he just one-touches the puck to a streaking Bing. 1-1.
Gaborik builds a condo in front of MAF. 1-0.
Then he does some unreal fist pump.
Three seconds later, it was tied.
The Guerin Play™, as he just one-touches the puck to a streaking Bing. 1-1.
Did Sid unleash a "Boom, Baby!"?
Later on, Rupp knocks on the door. 2-1.
After some jobbing, Avery gets too close to MAF's pubes.
Malkin gets tripped, Pens get a PP. Nope.
Crosby trips some joke, but it doesn't get called.
The refs were aware and call some tacky call on Gonchar.
Gaborik would score on the consequent PP. 2-2.
We finally figured out who Tony Granato looks like:
One of the bad guys from Beverly Hills Cop III.
Things are whatev to begin the third.
Almost waiting for the inevitable MSG Penguins collapse.
The blood gets boiling about five or so minutes in when Dan Giradi boards Mike Rupp.
Obvious penalty to everyone in the building except John Tortorella, who started bitching about the call.
Rupp hurts his knee on the play. It didn't look good.
The Pens powerplay didn't look good, either.
They job around, and then Geno gets called for something.
It feels like another makeup call. Great job by Torts to buy it.
Almost waiting for the inevitable MSG Penguins collapse.
The blood gets boiling about five or so minutes in when Dan Giradi boards Mike Rupp.
Obvious penalty to everyone in the building except John Tortorella, who started bitching about the call.
Rupp hurts his knee on the play. It didn't look good.
The Pens powerplay didn't look good, either.
They job around, and then Geno gets called for something.
It feels like another makeup call. Great job by Torts to buy it.
Rupp looks into your soul. 3-2.
Shit starts getting serious after that.
Bing goes after Gaborik when he takes a few extra whacks at MAF.
Orpik takes the feud to the next level, basically shutting down Gaborik's life after that.
That is when the game took a playoff-like feel.
And that is when the Pens took over.
Jokimov, the guy Cooke jobbed, should have faked a concussion like other people we know, because he committed a terrible turnover, which let Rupp lead a four-on-two break.
Bing goes after Gaborik when he takes a few extra whacks at MAF.
Orpik takes the feud to the next level, basically shutting down Gaborik's life after that.
That is when the game took a playoff-like feel.
And that is when the Pens took over.
Jokimov, the guy Cooke jobbed, should have faked a concussion like other people we know, because he committed a terrible turnover, which let Rupp lead a four-on-two break.
Avery tries to draw penalties by diving into the boards. Lame.
Another break leads to the Pens' insurance goal.
Does anyone remember the rule about icing when a pass is being attempted?
Well, this happened to the Rangers. Some guy tried to hit a long pass up the middle, but it didn't connect.
The refs ruled it icing, which, logically speaking, was the right call, but not according to the rulebook.
Welcome to the NHL.
So what happens? Of course the Pens score off the faceoff.
Eaton gets a knuckle-puck on net. Bing deflects it. 4-2.
Crosby: 8 points in 2 games.
[Thank to Pens Universe]
Tick-tick-tick.
Only thing left to see is if Rupp or Bing would get the HT.
Rangers pull King Homo, and Bing makes a terrible pass right up the middle in the Pens zone.
But it wasn't terrible. He was just looking for Rupp, who sinks it from way downtown.
Only thing left to see is if Rupp or Bing would get the HT.
Rangers pull King Homo, and Bing makes a terrible pass right up the middle in the Pens zone.
But it wasn't terrible. He was just looking for Rupp, who sinks it from way downtown.
GAME.
- Good to be back.
- Crosby on pace for 50 goals.
- Rupp on pace for 20 goals.
- We were rooting for someone to end Sean Avery's career every time he touched the ice.
- Ovechkin kneed somebody and hurt himself. We'll get to that eventually.
- And Keith Ballard destroyed Tomas Vokoun. Wow.
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#1
2009-12-01 10:28
Woo! Super Star back handed a puck to me for my daughter in warm-ups!!! Bring it!
#2
2009-12-01 10:29
Mike Rupp is making the playoffs.
Which I can't say about Crosby since he hurts the team so much. That jerk had 8 points in 2 games... no team should suffer through that.
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Which I can't say about Crosby since he hurts the team so much. That jerk had 8 points in 2 games... no team should suffer through that.
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#3
2009-12-01 10:31
First and foremost, congratulations to Mr. Rupp. Great game out there.
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Ken Campbell at THN is saying that he doesn't see any way Ovechkin escapes suspension this time for a few reasons:
1. Laraque was penalized for doing the same exact thing and got 5 games
2. This is Ovechkin's second major and game misconduct in a week
3. There's only so long with Ovechkin's reckless play that the NHL can justify not labeling him a "repeat offender"
It's funny, I can tell who the real hockey-knowledgeable Cap fan is at the office and who all the bandwagon fans are. The real fan says Ovechkin deserved it trying to do that and hopefully he'll wise up. The bandwagon riders say that the Canes targeted Ovechkin and that he led with his shoulder and that Gleason initiated the knee-to-knee contact. Fags.
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Ovechkin kneed somebody and hurt himself. We'll get to that eventually
Ken Campbell at THN is saying that he doesn't see any way Ovechkin escapes suspension this time for a few reasons:
1. Laraque was penalized for doing the same exact thing and got 5 games
2. This is Ovechkin's second major and game misconduct in a week
3. There's only so long with Ovechkin's reckless play that the NHL can justify not labeling him a "repeat offender"
It's funny, I can tell who the real hockey-knowledgeable Cap fan is at the office and who all the bandwagon fans are. The real fan says Ovechkin deserved it trying to do that and hopefully he'll wise up. The bandwagon riders say that the Canes targeted Ovechkin and that he led with his shoulder and that Gleason initiated the knee-to-knee contact. Fags.
#5
2009-12-01 10:36
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I'll admit it, I didn't see the need for signing Rupp when the deal was first announced. I thought his addition was superfluous. I'm just glad that Mr. Rupp and Mr. Shero proved what a joke I really am. Mike Rupp has already done more than I thought he would. He could coast the rest of the season and I'd still be content with his performance. That being said, I hope he doesn't coast - though I don't anticipate that he will.
Rupp on pace for 20 goals.
I'll admit it, I didn't see the need for signing Rupp when the deal was first announced. I thought his addition was superfluous. I'm just glad that Mr. Rupp and Mr. Shero proved what a joke I really am. Mike Rupp has already done more than I thought he would. He could coast the rest of the season and I'd still be content with his performance. That being said, I hope he doesn't coast - though I don't anticipate that he will.
#6
2009-12-01 10:39
Rupp owns your face. Too bad he's getting dragged down by getting so much ice time with that albatross Crosby.
Glad to see recaps back. That South Park reference is 100 levels of wrong.
Glad to see recaps back. That South Park reference is 100 levels of wrong.
#7
2009-12-01 10:39
Rupp, doin' good work!
And finally some Karma on Ovenchjoke's ass. Put a big ol' smile on my face to see him whimper off the ice. I'm not normally like that but in this case with this player it is much deserved.
Bing > Ovie
Wooooooooo!
And finally some Karma on Ovenchjoke's ass. Put a big ol' smile on my face to see him whimper off the ice. I'm not normally like that but in this case with this player it is much deserved.
Bing > Ovie
Wooooooooo!
#8
2009-12-01 10:41
faygo19
faygo19 (12/1/2009 at 7:37 AM)
Report Violation
Dude watch the replay he was going in for a solid shoulder check and the guy just cut out of the way. That is not blatant and a suspension for someone trying to put a good check and another person cutting out of the way of it is just dumb. This was just good hockey gone back. The kinds of things that can happen in a contact sport. This isn't even close to other knee on knee contact that we have had.
quote from some douche craps fan. So anyone who makes a cut out of the way is allowed to take a knee to knee hit?
douche
faygo19 (12/1/2009 at 7:37 AM)
Report Violation
Dude watch the replay he was going in for a solid shoulder check and the guy just cut out of the way. That is not blatant and a suspension for someone trying to put a good check and another person cutting out of the way of it is just dumb. This was just good hockey gone back. The kinds of things that can happen in a contact sport. This isn't even close to other knee on knee contact that we have had.
quote from some douche craps fan. So anyone who makes a cut out of the way is allowed to take a knee to knee hit?
douche
#9
2009-12-01 10:42
wooooooooooooo
Just unreal to see some of my stuff up there. Thanks to the Staff for bringing my part into line with the style. I'll get it down. Okay, enough of that.
Quoting PensFan2166:
You and me both. It's why Shero is a genius and you and I are jokes who waste time at work.
Just unreal to see some of my stuff up there. Thanks to the Staff for bringing my part into line with the style. I'll get it down. Okay, enough of that.
Quoting PensFan2166:
I'll admit it, I didn't see the need for signing Rupp when the deal was first announced. I thought his addition was superfluous. I'm just glad that Mr. Rupp and Mr. Shero proved what a joke I really am. Mike Rupp has already done more than I thought he would.
You and me both. It's why Shero is a genius and you and I are jokes who waste time at work.
#10
2009-12-01 10:44
Woooo! I'd like to point out the excellent set faceoff play by Staal and Rupp that resulted in Rupp's first goal. Full of win.
#11
2009-12-01 10:45
Quoting Raybin:
Don't forget how we hide behind the veil of cryptic online identities.
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You and me both. It's why Shero is a genius and you and I are jokes who waste time at work.
Don't forget how we hide behind the veil of cryptic online identities.
oopsrealnameblo g
#13
2009-12-01 10:49
Also, in the picture of Fleury giving Avery a mouthful of knob (ba-ZING), look at the Rags jersey kid in the top left. What an expression.
#14
2009-12-01 10:50
This is why we have a great team. Sid and Rupp both have two goals and the net is empty. Sid knows that this may be Rupp's one career shot at the H-T, and he will have many more opportunities for H-T's. So you know Sid was thinking "no matter what I'm getting Rupp the puck, he needs this, and hes getting the F'N Hatty". You no damn well AO the knee hunter never makes that pass, and doesn't give a damn about anyone else's hatty. Sid's Leadership>RichardsOvechki nWhoever.
BTW...Funniest episode of South Park Ever!
BTW...Funniest episode of South Park Ever!
#15
2009-12-01 10:51
woooo! solid recap!
crosby really hurt the team by letting rupp get that hat trick instead of trying to get a back to back hat trick for himself.
crosby really hurt the team by letting rupp get that hat trick instead of trying to get a back to back hat trick for himself.
#16
2009-12-01 10:56
Quoting UlffySam5:
Well of course not, because Ovechkin doesn't know how to pass. Also, he's unaware that you can score a hat trick before going to the shootout.
You no damn well AO the knee hunter never makes that pass, and doesn't give a damn about anyone else's hatty.
Well of course not, because Ovechkin doesn't know how to pass. Also, he's unaware that you can score a hat trick before going to the shootout.
#17
2009-12-01 10:58
Quoting PittHockey:
If it's any consolation to Mr. Rupp, I threw my kids hats around my living room for him. I hope he likes fluffy pink Disney Princess hats.
First hat trick I ever see in person and I didn't have a hat. Sorry Mike.
If it's any consolation to Mr. Rupp, I threw my kids hats around my living room for him. I hope he likes fluffy pink Disney Princess hats.
#18
2009-12-01 11:02
Listening to Hockey This Morning on XM on the drive into work and they're saying that this doesn't warrant a 5 game suspension because Ovi doesn't have a history of previous offenses.
DUH!
Of course he doesn't have a history of previous offenses because the league has turned a blind every EVERY FRIGGEN TIME THE DISEASE RIDDEN SKANK HITS THE ICE.
If Ovi ends up not getting any form of punishment I will mail a photocopied picture of my dick to the NHL offices in New York with the caption, "SUCK IT!!!"
DUH!
Of course he doesn't have a history of previous offenses because the league has turned a blind every EVERY FRIGGEN TIME THE DISEASE RIDDEN SKANK HITS THE ICE.
If Ovi ends up not getting any form of punishment I will mail a photocopied picture of my dick to the NHL offices in New York with the caption, "SUCK IT!!!"
#19
2009-12-01 11:04
Quoting PensFan2166:
The funny (well, not really) thing is that I've seen Ovechdick make some pretty sick passes. I think his passing ability is really underrated because it's underused because he's a selfish dicktoucher.
Quoting UlffySam5:You no damn well AO the knee hunter never makes that pass, and doesn't give a damn about anyone else's hatty.
Well of course not, because Ovechkin doesn't know how to pass. Also, he's unaware that you can score a hat trick before going to the shootout.
The funny (well, not really) thing is that I've seen Ovechdick make some pretty sick passes. I think his passing ability is really underrated because it's underused because he's a selfish dicktoucher.
#20
2009-12-01 11:06
Quoting Raybin:
I agree. I know he's got a very solid offensive game, but I live to mock.
The funny (well, not really) thing is that I've seen Ovechdick make some pretty sick passes. I think his passing ability is really underrated because it's underused because he's a selfish dicktoucher.
I agree. I know he's got a very solid offensive game, but I live to mock.
#21
2009-12-01 11:09
Business Man is all business in the wallpaper for life photo. Asian Lady is not impressed. Douchebag in front of Business Man must be one of Avery's lovers as he is not happy with the stick to the face. And what is the deal with the chick 3 people to the right of Business Man? What the fuck is around her neck?!?!
#22
2009-12-01 11:15
Rupp has more goals right now than any in one season.
wow. king Shero.
Rupp with 58 goals this year. callin it
wow. king Shero.
Rupp with 58 goals this year. callin it
#23
2009-12-01 11:16
Quoting Chewy:
She's a Pandaung tribeswoman.
And what is the deal with the chick 3 people to the right of Business Man? What the fuck is around her neck?!?!
She's a Pandaung tribeswoman.
#24
2009-12-01 11:18
Too bad Rupp's signed for another year, he might be missing out on a big pay day. Good game all around.
Has anyone watched ESPN today? I'm curious about what Melrose has to say about the Ovechkin knee. It'll probably be a waste, but you never know.
Has anyone watched ESPN today? I'm curious about what Melrose has to say about the Ovechkin knee. It'll probably be a waste, but you never know.
#25
2009-12-01 11:20
Quoting Whistler:
Ovechkin apologists are going to continue to make excuses as to why it's not a dirty hit, he tried to lead with the shoulder for each of these knee-on-knee hits and the target turned away, the boarding call was really more of a love tap from behind, etc. The thing is, regardless of whether he intended to injure Gleason or not he has now gotten tossed from two of his past three games with major penalties. There's a pattern developing. The excuse that he's "passionate" and just "plays the game at full speed" no longer washes. There are literally hundreds of players in the league who play the game every night at full speed with just as much passion and somehow manage to keep from repeatedly taking out the knees of other players or driving them into the boards head first, and those who can't refrain from shenanigans get suspended.
At this point, the best thing that can happen for Ovechkin and the Caps organization and fans is for him to take a seat for a few games and hope that he takes something from his time in the press box. All other things aside, if he keeps up at the rate he's going he's going to seriously risk shortening his career, whether it's because he injures himself like he did last night or because somebody like a Chris Neil or a Matt Cooke is going to get sick of his shit show and just lay him the hell out. He should have a conversation with Eric Lindros about being a big superstar who likes to target other players and thinks he's above it all because he's a skilled guy. I mean, assuming that Eric Lindros can remember his own name let alone anything about the time he actually spent playing hockey.
As a Pens fan it's tough to look at this objectively - especially considering his hit on Gonchar during the playoffs - but I don't see any way for the NHL to get around suspending him here, and not just the automatic suspension he's going to get for the two game misconducts. He needs to get at least two more games on top of that. At least. It'll be as much for his own good as it will for the good of the next player whose knees he might think twice before trying to take out.
Listening to Hockey This Morning on XM on the drive into work and they're saying that this doesn't warrant a 5 game suspension because Ovi doesn't have a history of previous offenses.
Ovechkin apologists are going to continue to make excuses as to why it's not a dirty hit, he tried to lead with the shoulder for each of these knee-on-knee hits and the target turned away, the boarding call was really more of a love tap from behind, etc. The thing is, regardless of whether he intended to injure Gleason or not he has now gotten tossed from two of his past three games with major penalties. There's a pattern developing. The excuse that he's "passionate" and just "plays the game at full speed" no longer washes. There are literally hundreds of players in the league who play the game every night at full speed with just as much passion and somehow manage to keep from repeatedly taking out the knees of other players or driving them into the boards head first, and those who can't refrain from shenanigans get suspended.
At this point, the best thing that can happen for Ovechkin and the Caps organization and fans is for him to take a seat for a few games and hope that he takes something from his time in the press box. All other things aside, if he keeps up at the rate he's going he's going to seriously risk shortening his career, whether it's because he injures himself like he did last night or because somebody like a Chris Neil or a Matt Cooke is going to get sick of his shit show and just lay him the hell out. He should have a conversation with Eric Lindros about being a big superstar who likes to target other players and thinks he's above it all because he's a skilled guy. I mean, assuming that Eric Lindros can remember his own name let alone anything about the time he actually spent playing hockey.
As a Pens fan it's tough to look at this objectively - especially considering his hit on Gonchar during the playoffs - but I don't see any way for the NHL to get around suspending him here, and not just the automatic suspension he's going to get for the two game misconducts. He needs to get at least two more games on top of that. At least. It'll be as much for his own good as it will for the good of the next player whose knees he might think twice before trying to take out.
#27
2009-12-01 11:30
Quoting dying alive:
Looking at it objectively, I hope Ovechkin gets suspended for a minimum of 3-5 games and that the Capitals lose every single game he's suspended by 1 goal - because watching that from the pressbox and knowing he could've been the difference in winning and losing might get his head right and cause him to stop all the cheap shit.
Looking at it in a biased view (both as a Pens fan and an Ovechkin hater), I hope he's done for the year (and misses the Olympics) because he brought it on himself. And maybe that'll convince him to stop the cheap shit.
However, with all the excuse generation going on from the Caps organization and their fans, I expect that he'll start believing himself to be the victim in all of this.
As a Pens fan it's tough to look at this objectively - especially considering his hit on Gonchar during the playoffs - but I don't see any way for the NHL to get around suspending him here, and not just the automatic suspension he's going to get for the two game misconducts. He needs to get at least two more games on top of that. At least. It'll be as much for his own good as it will for the good of the next player whose knees he might think twice before trying to take out.
Looking at it objectively, I hope Ovechkin gets suspended for a minimum of 3-5 games and that the Capitals lose every single game he's suspended by 1 goal - because watching that from the pressbox and knowing he could've been the difference in winning and losing might get his head right and cause him to stop all the cheap shit.
Looking at it in a biased view (both as a Pens fan and an Ovechkin hater), I hope he's done for the year (and misses the Olympics) because he brought it on himself. And maybe that'll convince him to stop the cheap shit.
However, with all the excuse generation going on from the Caps organization and their fans, I expect that he'll start believing himself to be the victim in all of this.
#28
2009-12-01 11:33
Quoting dying alive:
WIN.
I've said it before and I'll say it again...the image of Ovechkin traveling back in time to around 1999 or so and trying to pull his shit with Jason Arnott or Scott Gomez and then picturing Scott Stevens' reaction is enough to warm the cockles and sub-cockles of my heart. Just wish it could happen.
He should have a conversation with Eric Lindros about being a big superstar who likes to target other players and thinks he's above it all because he's a skilled guy. I mean, assuming that Eric Lindros can remember his own name let alone anything about the time he actually spent playing hockey.
WIN.
I've said it before and I'll say it again...the image of Ovechkin traveling back in time to around 1999 or so and trying to pull his shit with Jason Arnott or Scott Gomez and then picturing Scott Stevens' reaction is enough to warm the cockles and sub-cockles of my heart. Just wish it could happen.
#29
2009-12-01 11:33
Quoting dying alive:
Dating back to the playoffs and Gonchar, Ovechkin's now hit two guys knee on knee in under 30 games. In between those hits he's also been tossed for boarding a guy. Some people are trying to write this off as something that happens all the time, I guess that's true if you only watch Ovechkin, but otherwise it's ridiculous.
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Granted, I'm biased too, but I don't think he'll get it. The me-first way he plays the game, the look-at-me antics and celebrations, I doubt he'll change and he'll probably feel like the league is picking on him. It's like Terrell Owens, the guy's a cancer everywhere he goes, but somehow it's never his fault and he doesn't learn. Oh well, it's his career he's going to ruin, so keep up the good work.
There are literally hundreds of players in the league who play the game every night at full speed with just as much passion and somehow manage to keep from repeatedly taking out the knees of other players or driving them into the boards head first, and those who can't refrain from shenanigans get suspended.
Dating back to the playoffs and Gonchar, Ovechkin's now hit two guys knee on knee in under 30 games. In between those hits he's also been tossed for boarding a guy. Some people are trying to write this off as something that happens all the time, I guess that's true if you only watch Ovechkin, but otherwise it's ridiculous.
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At this point, the best thing that can happen for Ovechkin and the Caps organization and fans is for him to take a seat for a few games and hope that he takes something from his time in the press box.
Granted, I'm biased too, but I don't think he'll get it. The me-first way he plays the game, the look-at-me antics and celebrations, I doubt he'll change and he'll probably feel like the league is picking on him. It's like Terrell Owens, the guy's a cancer everywhere he goes, but somehow it's never his fault and he doesn't learn. Oh well, it's his career he's going to ruin, so keep up the good work.
#30
2009-12-01 11:35
@ PensFan...if you knew "Pandaung tribeswoman" off the top of your head I bow down to your mental genius!!
@ dying alive...very well put! All AO-hate aside, he does need to be suspended for the very reasons you mentioned.
@ dying alive...very well put! All AO-hate aside, he does need to be suspended for the very reasons you mentioned.
#31
2009-12-01 11:42
I know Staff is going to touch on this later when they've done their homework, and I'll probably re-cblog this, but it's worth chewing on.
Let's take a look at Ovechkin's form during the knee-on-knee with Gleason last night:
Leading with the knee. Caps fans on Japers' last night were claiming that it's Gleason's fault for attempting to avoid the run at the last second. Well, from the looks of this (and the video), it's as if Ovie was so intent on making contact that he did what you're not supposed to do--stick out the knee.
Compare that with this:
Look familiar? A D-man sees Ovie barrelling down, not attempting to play the puck, and shifts to his left to avoid the hit. Ovie, wishing to make contact at any cost, continues to lead with his right leg, kneeing the D-man and causing injury.
Like I said to J.P.'s folks last night...Ovechkin is finally getting a reputation because he deserves one--as a guy who takes ill-advised, borderline (some not-so borderline) cheapshot runs at players. I don't even think that Ovie does this intentionally. It's just that he's so intent on making the contact at the expense of the safety of all involved that he does it.
The bottom line is this: He's reckless and negligent with his actions. That's a requisite level of culpability to get lesser players 2 games. Of course, Ovie might not be able to play those anyways, but the message needs to be sent. Otherwise, you can bet that Matt Cooke's going to be targeting some knees soon.
It's not as bad as BGL's Kronwall knee, but it's still reckless and something that - as a player - you should know better than to attempt. Pull up. Otherwise, we're going to see more Cam Neelys hobbling around.
Let's take a look at Ovechkin's form during the knee-on-knee with Gleason last night:
Leading with the knee. Caps fans on Japers' last night were claiming that it's Gleason's fault for attempting to avoid the run at the last second. Well, from the looks of this (and the video), it's as if Ovie was so intent on making contact that he did what you're not supposed to do--stick out the knee.
Compare that with this:
Look familiar? A D-man sees Ovie barrelling down, not attempting to play the puck, and shifts to his left to avoid the hit. Ovie, wishing to make contact at any cost, continues to lead with his right leg, kneeing the D-man and causing injury.
Like I said to J.P.'s folks last night...Ovechkin is finally getting a reputation because he deserves one--as a guy who takes ill-advised, borderline (some not-so borderline) cheapshot runs at players. I don't even think that Ovie does this intentionally. It's just that he's so intent on making the contact at the expense of the safety of all involved that he does it.
The bottom line is this: He's reckless and negligent with his actions. That's a requisite level of culpability to get lesser players 2 games. Of course, Ovie might not be able to play those anyways, but the message needs to be sent. Otherwise, you can bet that Matt Cooke's going to be targeting some knees soon.
It's not as bad as BGL's Kronwall knee, but it's still reckless and something that - as a player - you should know better than to attempt. Pull up. Otherwise, we're going to see more Cam Neelys hobbling around.
#33
2009-12-01 11:44
@Little Artie - You also forgot his fine for a slewfoot in that same 30 game stretch. This points to a pattern of behavior that shows he thinks he is untouchable because the league won't punish him other than a $2500 fine for a player making around $11M per season.
@Chewy - I'm a fount of useless knowledge - an idiot savant of sorts.
@Chewy - I'm a fount of useless knowledge - an idiot savant of sorts.
#34
2009-12-01 11:44
Quoting Raybin:
Can you imagine him lining up against Mario and having to deal with Darius Kasparaitis or Ulf Samuelsson? They wouldn't bother going the McSorely or Semenko route where they'd have a nice little conversation with him about what would happen if he even thought about going near Mario. They'd just go for his knee or his head and take him out, period. That's what I'm saying - the league may not have the same kind of guys it did back in the 90s with Stevens, Kaspar, Ulfie, etc., but there are still players who will eventually reach their level of tolerance with Ovechkin's antics and make no qualms about trying to knock him out of not just the current game, but the season.
Oh, and apparently Pens fans all suffer from "Ovie envy" as well because the majority of us (and fans of every other team in the league, incidentally) think that his hit on Gleason was a cheap shot, that it's not his first cheap shot, and that he deserves a suspension just like a role player would get for that hit and with his history. I can see why people would think we're just jealous. It's not like we have any superstar players on our team and it's not like they've ever won anything important. El-oh-el.
I've said it before and I'll say it again...the image of Ovechkin traveling back in time to around 1999 or so and trying to pull his shit with Jason Arnott or Scott Gomez and then picturing Scott Stevens' reaction is enough to warm the cockles and sub-cockles of my heart. Just wish it could happen.
Can you imagine him lining up against Mario and having to deal with Darius Kasparaitis or Ulf Samuelsson? They wouldn't bother going the McSorely or Semenko route where they'd have a nice little conversation with him about what would happen if he even thought about going near Mario. They'd just go for his knee or his head and take him out, period. That's what I'm saying - the league may not have the same kind of guys it did back in the 90s with Stevens, Kaspar, Ulfie, etc., but there are still players who will eventually reach their level of tolerance with Ovechkin's antics and make no qualms about trying to knock him out of not just the current game, but the season.
Oh, and apparently Pens fans all suffer from "Ovie envy" as well because the majority of us (and fans of every other team in the league, incidentally) think that his hit on Gleason was a cheap shot, that it's not his first cheap shot, and that he deserves a suspension just like a role player would get for that hit and with his history. I can see why people would think we're just jealous. It's not like we have any superstar players on our team and it's not like they've ever won anything important. El-oh-el.
#35
2009-12-01 11:51
Quoting dying alive:
Or career.
Eventually enough players will get sick of Ovechkin putting careers in jeopardy (whether intentional or not) and somebody like Jordin Tootoo, Matt Cooke, Jarkko Ruutu, or Sean Avery will look to end his career. And when that happens, everyone will claim there's no respect in the game anymore. When folks start saying that, I'll counter by saying it happened due to respect - if he respected the game and other players, it wouldn't have happened to him. Respect is a two-way thing - not that non-stars should just sit back and watch with awe as stars do as they please, damn the consequences.
That's what I'm saying - the league may not have the same kind of guys it did back in the 90s with Stevens, Kaspar, Ulfie, etc., but there are still players who will eventually reach their level of tolerance with Ovechkin's antics and make no qualms about trying to knock him out of not just the current game, but the season.
Or career.
Eventually enough players will get sick of Ovechkin putting careers in jeopardy (whether intentional or not) and somebody like Jordin Tootoo, Matt Cooke, Jarkko Ruutu, or Sean Avery will look to end his career. And when that happens, everyone will claim there's no respect in the game anymore. When folks start saying that, I'll counter by saying it happened due to respect - if he respected the game and other players, it wouldn't have happened to him. Respect is a two-way thing - not that non-stars should just sit back and watch with awe as stars do as they please, damn the consequences.
#36
2009-12-01 11:54
Quoting dying alive:
This is the point Grapes has made about Ovie. He - and the league - shouldn't fear suspensions for No. 8. Rather, they should fear the possibility that someone Cam Neely's him.
You can see it now: Carolina calls up some mucker from Albany like Nicolas Blanchard who takes a run at him. There's a knee-to-knee, or there's an Orpik/Cole-esque neck realignment that ends Ovie's year. This is a nightmare scenario for Bettman. One of his two top personalities putting butts in seats and in front of NBC TV sets is gone for 40-some games because of retribution meted out by a relative joke who must got his 15 mins. of fame.
Ovie needs to get his head out of his tramp-stamped ass for 5 mins. to realize how his reckless behavior can come back to bite him.
Can you imagine him lining up against Mario and having to deal with Darius Kasparaitis or Ulf Samuelsson? They wouldn't bother going the McSorely or Semenko route where they'd have a nice little conversation with him about what would happen if he even thought about going near Mario. They'd just go for his knee or his head and take him out, period. That's what I'm saying - the league may not have the same kind of guys it did back in the 90s with Stevens, Kaspar, Ulfie, etc., but there are still players who will eventually reach their level of tolerance with Ovechkin's antics and make no qualms about trying to knock him out of not just the current game, but the season.
This is the point Grapes has made about Ovie. He - and the league - shouldn't fear suspensions for No. 8. Rather, they should fear the possibility that someone Cam Neely's him.
You can see it now: Carolina calls up some mucker from Albany like Nicolas Blanchard who takes a run at him. There's a knee-to-knee, or there's an Orpik/Cole-esque neck realignment that ends Ovie's year. This is a nightmare scenario for Bettman. One of his two top personalities putting butts in seats and in front of NBC TV sets is gone for 40-some games because of retribution meted out by a relative joke who must got his 15 mins. of fame.
Ovie needs to get his head out of his tramp-stamped ass for 5 mins. to realize how his reckless behavior can come back to bite him.
#37
2009-12-01 11:57
Would also love to see Ovie try to introduce the Western Conference to some of his antics:
I'm pretty sure Zach Stortini is legitimately psychotic.
Have you seen what Evgeny Artuykhin can do to someone he decides to run?
My #1 current dream is that Captain Caveman attempts shenanigans with Mike Ribeiro or Brad Richards....and then cue Steve Ott.
I'm pretty sure Zach Stortini is legitimately psychotic.
Have you seen what Evgeny Artuykhin can do to someone he decides to run?
My #1 current dream is that Captain Caveman attempts shenanigans with Mike Ribeiro or Brad Richards....and then cue Steve Ott.
#38
2009-12-01 11:58
Quoting PensFan2166:
Agreed. And don't get me wrong, by no means am I advocating somebody ending Ovechkin's career. I think the guy is a showboating douche, but what a colossal waste of talent it would be for his time in the league to be cut short. I also like the way his presence is starting to kindle the rivalry between the Caps/Pens (it's still mostly one-sided and it'll never be Pens/Flyers, but it's fun). At the same time, I have a hard time finding any sympathy for him if his knee injury is serious, because he brought it on himself. It wasn't like someone hit him. It wasn't even that he threw a clean hit and just ended up with an unfortunate result. If he's going to run around all over the ice throwing shots that are borderline at best, he's going to have to deal with results like he got last night.
I will say this...if I'm Boudreau and/or Leonsis, I'm having a very serious talk with him this morning about getting himself under control and putting the good of the team before his seemingly pathological need to go out of his way to make a big hit.
Or career.
Eventually enough players will get sick of Ovechkin putting careers in jeopardy (whether intentional or not) and somebody like Jordin Tootoo, Matt Cooke, Jarkko Ruutu, or Sean Avery will look to end his career. And when that happens, everyone will claim there's no respect in the game anymore. When folks start saying that, I'll counter by saying it happened due to respect - if he respected the game and other players, it wouldn't have happened to him. Respect is a two-way thing - not that non-stars should just sit back and watch with awe as stars do as they please, damn the consequences.
Agreed. And don't get me wrong, by no means am I advocating somebody ending Ovechkin's career. I think the guy is a showboating douche, but what a colossal waste of talent it would be for his time in the league to be cut short. I also like the way his presence is starting to kindle the rivalry between the Caps/Pens (it's still mostly one-sided and it'll never be Pens/Flyers, but it's fun). At the same time, I have a hard time finding any sympathy for him if his knee injury is serious, because he brought it on himself. It wasn't like someone hit him. It wasn't even that he threw a clean hit and just ended up with an unfortunate result. If he's going to run around all over the ice throwing shots that are borderline at best, he's going to have to deal with results like he got last night.
I will say this...if I'm Boudreau and/or Leonsis, I'm having a very serious talk with him this morning about getting himself under control and putting the good of the team before his seemingly pathological need to go out of his way to make a big hit.
#39
2009-12-01 11:59
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If you count the slewfoot during the Atlanta game, that gives Ovie FOUR hits that each could have very well garnered suspension in under half a season's worth of games.
Dating back to the playoffs and Gonchar, Ovechkin's now hit two guys knee on knee in under 30 games. In between those hits he's also been tossed for boarding a guy. Some people are trying to write this off as something that happens all the time, I guess that's true if you only watch Ovechkin, but otherwise it's ridiculous.
If you count the slewfoot during the Atlanta game, that gives Ovie FOUR hits that each could have very well garnered suspension in under half a season's worth of games.
#40
2009-12-01 12:02
Quoting dying alive:
You're absolutely right about what should be done, but even if they try it, I don't know if it will get through. I'm too lazy to look it up, but I'm 99 percent positive Boudreau made a read-between-the-lines kind of comment earlier this season to the effect that he's tried to get Ovechkin to understand the importance of being a two-way player, but that Ovie basically ignored him.
I will say this...if I'm Boudreau and/or Leonsis, I'm having a very serious talk with him this morning about getting himself under control and putting the good of the team before his seemingly pathological need to go out of his way to make a big hit.
You're absolutely right about what should be done, but even if they try it, I don't know if it will get through. I'm too lazy to look it up, but I'm 99 percent positive Boudreau made a read-between-the-lines kind of comment earlier this season to the effect that he's tried to get Ovechkin to understand the importance of being a two-way player, but that Ovie basically ignored him.
#41
2009-12-01 12:05
Quoting Raybin:
I'm pretty sure that sociopath David Koci plays in the West as well. I would bet money that Koci wouldn't give two shits about ruining Ovie's life.
Would also love to see Ovie try to introduce the Western Conference to some of his antics:
I'm pretty sure Zach Stortini is legitimately psychotic.
Have you seen what Evgeny Artuykhin can do to someone he decides to run?
My #1 current dream is that Captain Caveman attempts shenanigans with Mike Ribeiro or Brad Richards....and then cue Steve Ott.
I'm pretty sure that sociopath David Koci plays in the West as well. I would bet money that Koci wouldn't give two shits about ruining Ovie's life.
#42
2009-12-01 12:05
Quoting PensFan2166:
Exactly. Is it respect for a guy to watch an Ovechkin take out his team's top player and ruin their season?
Ovechkin thinks he's untouchable. If the league doesn't do something, Ovechkin's going to get touched, and it won't be by Pierre, and he won't like it.
I'll never not hate Philadelphia, but I tried to imagine Ovechkin running Bobby Clarke. My head exploded
Eventually enough players will get sick of Ovechkin putting careers in jeopardy (whether intentional or not) and somebody like Jordin Tootoo, Matt Cooke, Jarkko Ruutu, or Sean Avery will look to end his career. And when that happens, everyone will claim there's no respect in the game anymore. When folks start saying that, I'll counter by saying it happened due to respect - if he respected the game and other players, it wouldn't have happened to him. Respect is a two-way thing - not that non-stars should just sit back and watch with awe as stars do as they please, damn the consequences.
Exactly. Is it respect for a guy to watch an Ovechkin take out his team's top player and ruin their season?
Ovechkin thinks he's untouchable. If the league doesn't do something, Ovechkin's going to get touched, and it won't be by Pierre, and he won't like it.
I'll never not hate Philadelphia, but I tried to imagine Ovechkin running Bobby Clarke. My head exploded
#43
2009-12-01 12:07
Quoting dying alive:
How's that $70mil owed for seasons '14/'15 through '20/'21 looking now? When the guy's half-speed because of this shit (and you know this isn't the end of it), he'll be like a washed-up NFL running back at 32.
I will say this...if I'm Boudreau and/or Leonsis, I'm having a very serious talk with him this morning about getting himself under control and putting the good of the team before his seemingly pathological need to go out of his way to make a big hit.
How's that $70mil owed for seasons '14/'15 through '20/'21 looking now? When the guy's half-speed because of this shit (and you know this isn't the end of it), he'll be like a washed-up NFL running back at 32.
#44
2009-12-01 12:08
Quoting Raybin:
I think I remember that as well, now that you mention it. I guess if he's uncoachable there's not a lot you can do about that (aside from trade him, which they'd never do). But particularly in the case of Leonsis - who is on the hook for paying his salary - I'd make it clear to him what was expected of him in terms of conduct and that being a team player involves more than being really, really happy when somebody else scores a goal.
Also, I forgot to follow up my "If I'm Boudreau and/or Leonsis" statement with the requisite..."then I'd hit KFC for a bucket of extra crispy." I feel shame.
Quoting dying alive:I will say this...if I'm Boudreau and/or Leonsis, I'm having a very serious talk with him this morning about getting himself under control and putting the good of the team before his seemingly pathological need to go out of his way to make a big hit.
You're absolutely right about what should be done, but even if they try it, I don't know if it will get through. I'm too lazy to look it up, but I'm 99 percent positive Boudreau made a read-between-the-lines kind of comment earlier this season to the effect that he's tried to get Ovechkin to understand the importance of being a two-way player, but that Ovie basically ignored him.
I think I remember that as well, now that you mention it. I guess if he's uncoachable there's not a lot you can do about that (aside from trade him, which they'd never do). But particularly in the case of Leonsis - who is on the hook for paying his salary - I'd make it clear to him what was expected of him in terms of conduct and that being a team player involves more than being really, really happy when somebody else scores a goal.
Also, I forgot to follow up my "If I'm Boudreau and/or Leonsis" statement with the requisite..."then I'd hit KFC for a bucket of extra crispy." I feel shame.
#45
2009-12-01 12:09
Quoting Sweet Trav 412:
Yep...in fact, we'll be seeing him Thursday. Tell Gonchar to watch out. Hope Godard whips shit out of him just for kicks. I seriously think Koci may be the single most useless player in the league.
I'm pretty sure that sociopath David Koci plays in the West as well. I would bet money that Koci wouldn't give two shits about ruining Ovie's life.
Yep...in fact, we'll be seeing him Thursday. Tell Gonchar to watch out. Hope Godard whips shit out of him just for kicks. I seriously think Koci may be the single most useless player in the league.
#46
2009-12-01 12:12
Quoting dying alive:
Things like that are why you're a big deal.
Also, I forgot to follow up my "If I'm Boudreau and/or Leonsis" statement with the requisite..."then I'd hit KFC for a bucket of extra crispy." I feel shame.
Things like that are why you're a big deal.
#47
2009-12-01 12:12
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As a referee, we are taught that the only time this rule comes into effect is if the pass was attainable. Even if it was an attempted pass and it came within 6 inches of someone's stick, as long as they make a motion to get the puck but don't touch it, then it is considered unattainable and the icing stands. So basically, you pretty much have to touch the puck for it to be waved off, or something has to happen (ie, interference by other team) to keep you from touching it. That's USA Hockey's rule, but I assume it's similar in the NHL.
The refs ruled it icing, which, logically speaking, was the right call, but not according to the rulebook. Welcome to the NHL.
As a referee, we are taught that the only time this rule comes into effect is if the pass was attainable. Even if it was an attempted pass and it came within 6 inches of someone's stick, as long as they make a motion to get the puck but don't touch it, then it is considered unattainable and the icing stands. So basically, you pretty much have to touch the puck for it to be waved off, or something has to happen (ie, interference by other team) to keep you from touching it. That's USA Hockey's rule, but I assume it's similar in the NHL.
#48
2009-12-01 12:12
Quoting dying alive:
By no means am I advocating that either. While I think fighting and player policing has its place in hockey, I'm not an unabashed supporter of vigilante frontier justice. But seriously, in terms of some of the biggest low-life piece of shit players in the NHL, who among us can't imagine a guy like Tootoo, Stortini, Ott, Orr, Voros, Avery, etc. attempting to end Ovechkin's season/career?
@Raybin - I can't remember the exact words, but Boudreau did say something to the effect of: I have a hard enough time trying to get Ovechkin to backcheck, I can't get him to stop hitting.
Agreed. And don't get me wrong, by no means am I advocating somebody ending Ovechkin's career. I think the guy is a showboating douche, but what a colossal waste of talent it would be for his time in the league to be cut short.
By no means am I advocating that either. While I think fighting and player policing has its place in hockey, I'm not an unabashed supporter of vigilante frontier justice. But seriously, in terms of some of the biggest low-life piece of shit players in the NHL, who among us can't imagine a guy like Tootoo, Stortini, Ott, Orr, Voros, Avery, etc. attempting to end Ovechkin's season/career?
@Raybin - I can't remember the exact words, but Boudreau did say something to the effect of: I have a hard enough time trying to get Ovechkin to backcheck, I can't get him to stop hitting.
#49
2009-12-01 12:14
Quoting Raybin:
That's saying something when Chris Bourque is still on the roster.
I seriously think Koci may be the single most useless player in the league.
That's saying something when Chris Bourque is still on the roster.
#50
2009-12-01 12:14
Quoting Docc8:
And more importantly (from a bottom line perspective), if I recall correctly, NHL teams can only get the first 5 years of a contract insured - so in the event of an injury after year 5, the team eats the money.
Quoting dying alive:I will say this...if I'm Boudreau and/or Leonsis, I'm having a very serious talk with him this morning about getting himself under control and putting the good of the team before his seemingly pathological need to go out of his way to make a big hit.
How's that $70mil owed for seasons '14/'15 through '20/'21 looking now? When the guy's half-speed because of this shit (and you know this isn't the end of it), he'll be like a washed-up NFL running back at 32.
And more importantly (from a bottom line perspective), if I recall correctly, NHL teams can only get the first 5 years of a contract insured - so in the event of an injury after year 5, the team eats the money.
#51
2009-12-01 12:16
Quoting PensFan2166:
I think there are a couple of guys on that list who would jump at the chance to do so, either because they're sociopaths or because it would be their legacy in the NHL. Or both.
WRT Koci, the Pens probably still have douching him on their "to do" list after his bullshit in the preseason last year.
But seriously, in terms of some of the biggest low-life piece of shit players in the NHL, who among us can't imagine a guy like Tootoo, Stortini, Ott, Orr, Voros, Avery, etc. attempting to end Ovechkin's season/career?
I think there are a couple of guys on that list who would jump at the chance to do so, either because they're sociopaths or because it would be their legacy in the NHL. Or both.
WRT Koci, the Pens probably still have douching him on their "to do" list after his bullshit in the preseason last year.
#52
2009-12-01 12:16
Quoting Lyons54:
Right. The key word in Rule 81.5 is "discretion." The linesman has the discretion to waive the icing. He didn't. End of story.
As a referee, we are taught that the only time this rule comes into effect is if the pass was attainable. Even if it was an attempted pass and it came within 6 inches of someone's stick, as long as they make a motion to get the puck but don't touch it, then it is considered unattainable and the icing stands. So basically, you pretty much have to touch the puck for it to be waved off, or something has to happen (ie, interference by other team) to keep you from touching it. That's USA Hockey's rule, but I assume it's similar in the NHL.
Right. The key word in Rule 81.5 is "discretion." The linesman has the discretion to waive the icing. He didn't. End of story.
#53
2009-12-01 12:16
Quoting dying alive:
Coffee...all over my desk. On papers I need to turn in in an hour...
Also, I forgot to follow up my "If I'm Boudreau and/or Leonsis" statement with the requisite..."then I'd hit KFC for a bucket of extra crispy." I feel shame.
Coffee...all over my desk. On papers I need to turn in in an hour...
#54
2009-12-01 12:19
Quoting PensFan2166:
I'm going to assume by "the team," you meant "Fat Ted," and by "money," you meant "every morsel of food to pass by his face." Oh, I'm going classy now.
...so in the event of an injury after year 5, the team eats the money.
I'm going to assume by "the team," you meant "Fat Ted," and by "money," you meant "every morsel of food to pass by his face." Oh, I'm going classy now.
#55
2009-12-01 12:19
Quoting dying alive:
Jordin Tootoo is the one guy on that list above all others who I think would absolutely revel in ending the season/career of a superstar and then take every opportunity to rub that team's collective face in it.
Quoting PensFan2166:But seriously, in terms of some of the biggest low-life piece of shit players in the NHL, who among us can't imagine a guy like Tootoo, Stortini, Ott, Orr, Voros, Avery, etc. attempting to end Ovechkin's season/career?
I think there are a couple of guys on that list who would jump at the chance to do so, either because they're sociopaths or because it would be their legacy in the NHL. Or both.
Jordin Tootoo is the one guy on that list above all others who I think would absolutely revel in ending the season/career of a superstar and then take every opportunity to rub that team's collective face in it.
#56
2009-12-01 12:19
Quoting dying alive:
For me, Leonsis is the archetypal Caps fan. He doesn't really understand the game beyond fawning over Ovechkin. It's the perfect storm, a completely irresponsible player and an organization that doesn't demand any responsibility from him.
Contrast that with the Pens. The team's run like a family with younger players living with veterans so they can get a hang of the life and what's expected, and at the top of the family is Buries It, whose leadership/experience/awesomeness I can't say enough about.
But particularly in the case of Leonsis - who is on the hook for paying his salary - I'd make it clear to him what was expected of him in terms of conduct and that being a team player involves more than being really, really happy when somebody else scores a goal.
For me, Leonsis is the archetypal Caps fan. He doesn't really understand the game beyond fawning over Ovechkin. It's the perfect storm, a completely irresponsible player and an organization that doesn't demand any responsibility from him.
Contrast that with the Pens. The team's run like a family with younger players living with veterans so they can get a hang of the life and what's expected, and at the top of the family is Buries It, whose leadership/experience/awesomeness I can't say enough about.
#57
2009-12-01 12:23
Since I'm in the mood to run down douchebags from other teams who don't get punished for cheap shots, I'll switch gears a slight bit and offer the names of captains I can think of just off the top of my head whose leadership is superior to Mike Richards:
Sidney Crosby
Brenden Morrow
Scott Niedermayer
Jason Arnott
Jarome Iginla
Shane Doan
Nicklas Lidstrom
Zdeno Chara
Rick Nash
That still puts Cap'n Leadership in the the top 10, but Pierre & the Flyers are fooling themselves if they think he's the best captain in the league. Fuck the lot of them.
Who else can I run down?
Sidney Crosby
Brenden Morrow
Scott Niedermayer
Jason Arnott
Jarome Iginla
Shane Doan
Nicklas Lidstrom
Zdeno Chara
Rick Nash
That still puts Cap'n Leadership in the the top 10, but Pierre & the Flyers are fooling themselves if they think he's the best captain in the league. Fuck the lot of them.
Who else can I run down?
#58
2009-12-01 12:23
I believe Boudreau, while in line for cookies and pie at Golden Corral, mentioned something about Ovechkin's hitting and lack of defense being a "part of his game," and saying that its not fair for him as a coach to ask him to change his style. Too lazy to look it up, but it speaks volumes of the moronism present in the Craps organization.
#59
2009-12-01 12:25
Quoting Raybin:
Apparently there are rumors circulating that Richards may lose the C to Pronger. For Pronger, the C will stand for Capital Punishment, which seems to be what the Flyers think he will do to Rosby.
Since I'm in the mood to run down douchebags from other teams who don't get punished for cheap shots, I'll switch gears a slight bit and offer the names of captains I can think of just off the top of my head whose leadership is superior to Mike Richards:
Sidney Crosby
Brenden Morrow
Scott Niedermayer
Jason Arnott
Jarome Iginla
Shane Doan
Nicklas Lidstrom
Zdeno Chara
Rick Nash
That still puts Cap'n Leadership in the the top 10, but Pierre & the Flyers are fooling themselves if they think he's the best captain in the league. Fuck the lot of them.
Who else can I run down?
Apparently there are rumors circulating that Richards may lose the C to Pronger. For Pronger, the C will stand for Capital Punishment, which seems to be what the Flyers think he will do to Rosby.
#60
2009-12-01 12:26
Quoting Raybin:
Ethan Moreau
Since I'm in the mood to run down douchebags from other teams who don't get punished for cheap shots, I'll switch gears a slight bit and offer the names of captains I can think of just off the top of my head whose leadership is superior to Mike Richards:
Sidney Crosby
Brenden Morrow
Scott Niedermayer
Jason Arnott
Jarome Iginla
Shane Doan
Nicklas Lidstrom
Zdeno Chara
Rick Nash
That still puts Cap'n Leadership in the the top 10, but Pierre & the Flyers are fooling themselves if they think he's the best captain in the league. Fuck the lot of them.
Who else can I run down?
Ethan Moreau
#61
2009-12-01 12:27
Quoting dying alive:
I was at that game with my now-wife-then-fiancee. I had scored on the glass seats (not too difficult in a preseason game) and it happened very slightly to our right. I can still see Gonch standing there having just moved the puck up ice and then getting crunched. When he got back to the bench, my wife nudged me and said "Look at Gonchar." He looked to be in agony....that was quite an "Oh shit" moment, I assure you.
Godard wailing on him afterward was a pretty beautiful thing.
WRT Koci, the Pens probably still have douching him on their "to do" list after his bullshit in the preseason last year.
I was at that game with my now-wife-then-fiancee. I had scored on the glass seats (not too difficult in a preseason game) and it happened very slightly to our right. I can still see Gonch standing there having just moved the puck up ice and then getting crunched. When he got back to the bench, my wife nudged me and said "Look at Gonchar." He looked to be in agony....that was quite an "Oh shit" moment, I assure you.
Godard wailing on him afterward was a pretty beautiful thing.
#62
2009-12-01 12:27
Quote:
Doubt it. I believe he was inline at the Subway ordering his footlong.
BTW does he not look like Don Rickles? Only fatter.
I believe Boudreau, while in line for cookies and pie at Golden Corral, mentioned something about Ovechkin's hitting and lack of defense being a "part of his game," and saying that its not fair for him as a coach to ask him to change his style. Too lazy to look it up, but it speaks volumes of the moronism present in the Craps organization.
Doubt it. I believe he was inline at the Subway ordering his footlong.
BTW does he not look like Don Rickles? Only fatter.
#63
2009-12-01 12:30
Matt Cooke aside because his role on the team is very different than Ovechkin's, let's compare apples to apples. Can you imagine if Geno were running around throwing himself all over the ice with no regard to himself or other players (just to cover the Caps fans favorite talking point, he should have been suspended for his slew foot on Mara), getting himself tossed out of games and injuring himself in the process? I think we know what would happen. Before Bylsma or Bond Villain Granato could even get to him, someone like Guerin, Sid, or Orpik would snatch him up and set his head on straight by any means necessary. Gonchar would lecture him in Russian. Bylsma and Granato would lay down the law and if he continued to break the rules, he'd be benched. Mario would just give him a look of stern disappointment and that would be all it would take.
Seriously, who is running that team? Who is their captain? I assume it's Clark since he has the C on his chest, but why isn't he doing his job and keeping his players in line? If he is afraid to step up to #8 for whatever reason, he shouldn't be wearing the C. If the best Boudreau can manage is a self-deprecating "I can barely get him to back check" comment, they need to get an assistant coach who is willing to fuck somebody up.
Actually, I hope they never figure this shit out. Until they do, they're always going to be paper champs and talented underachievers.
Seriously, who is running that team? Who is their captain? I assume it's Clark since he has the C on his chest, but why isn't he doing his job and keeping his players in line? If he is afraid to step up to #8 for whatever reason, he shouldn't be wearing the C. If the best Boudreau can manage is a self-deprecating "I can barely get him to back check" comment, they need to get an assistant coach who is willing to fuck somebody up.
Actually, I hope they never figure this shit out. Until they do, they're always going to be paper champs and talented underachievers.
#64
2009-12-01 12:30
Quoting Raybin:
How could you forget Chris Clark?!?!?!?
Since I'm in the mood to run down douchebags from other teams who don't get punished for cheap shots, I'll switch gears a slight bit and offer the names of captains I can think of just off the top of my head whose leadership is superior to Mike Richards:
Sidney Crosby
Brenden Morrow
Scott Niedermayer
Jason Arnott
Jarome Iginla
Shane Doan
Nicklas Lidstrom
Zdeno Chara
Rick Nash
That still puts Cap'n Leadership in the the top 10, but Pierre & the Flyers are fooling themselves if they think he's the best captain in the league. Fuck the lot of them.
Who else can I run down?
How could you forget Chris Clark?!?!?!?
#65
2009-12-01 12:32
Quoting dying alive:
Truth. Just wanted this to be repeated.
EDIT: Buries It.
Actually, I hope they never figure this shit out. Until they do, they're always going to be paper champs and talented underachievers.
Truth. Just wanted this to be repeated.
EDIT: Buries It.
#66
2009-12-01 12:33
Quoting pensfan:
I thought it stood for "C us ranked 20th in NHL lol."
Apparently there are rumors circulating that Richards may lose the C to Pronger. For Pronger, the C will stand for Capital Punishment, which seems to be what the Flyers think he will do to Rosby.
I thought it stood for "C us ranked 20th in NHL lol."
#67
2009-12-01 12:35
Quoting dying alive:
If they're not in the Russian clique, Ovechkin won't listen. And if they're in the Russian clique, they all blow/defer to Ovechkin. For as talented as he can be, Ovechkin wouldn't fit/be welcome on about 1/3 to 1/2 the teams in the NHL. Imagine if Ovechkin had the personal misfortune of playing for a guy like Mike Keenan, Scotty Bowman, Kevin Constantine, or even Michel Therrien - he'd quickly get an attitude adjustment.
Seriously, who is running that team? Who is their captain? I assume it's Clark since he has the C on his chest, but why isn't he doing his job and keeping his players in line? If he is afraid to step up to #8 for whatever reason, he shouldn't be wearing the C. If the best Boudreau can manage is a self-deprecating "I can barely get him to back check" comment, they need to get an assistant coach who is willing to fuck somebody up.
If they're not in the Russian clique, Ovechkin won't listen. And if they're in the Russian clique, they all blow/defer to Ovechkin. For as talented as he can be, Ovechkin wouldn't fit/be welcome on about 1/3 to 1/2 the teams in the NHL. Imagine if Ovechkin had the personal misfortune of playing for a guy like Mike Keenan, Scotty Bowman, Kevin Constantine, or even Michel Therrien - he'd quickly get an attitude adjustment.
#68
2009-12-01 12:35
Quoting dying alive:
Letting Federov go was probably a big mistake in that regard. He had to be their most respected veteran, and if all the talk that there's a lot of nationality based division in their locker room is true, then there's a chance that Ovechkin might listen to Federov. But they let him go, sucks to be them.
Seriously, who is running that team? Who is their captain? I assume it's Clark since he has the C on his chest, but why isn't he doing his job and keeping his players in line? If he is afraid to step up to #8 for whatever reason, he shouldn't be wearing the C. If the best Boudreau can manage is a self-deprecating "I can barely get him to back check" comment, they need to get an assistant coach who is willing to fuck somebody up.
Letting Federov go was probably a big mistake in that regard. He had to be their most respected veteran, and if all the talk that there's a lot of nationality based division in their locker room is true, then there's a chance that Ovechkin might listen to Federov. But they let him go, sucks to be them.
#69
2009-12-01 12:38
Quoting Little Artie:
I think Fedorov left more than he was let go. Perhaps the Caps didn't have the money to sign him or whatever, but if he wanted to stay, he would've.
Letting Federov go was probably a big mistake in that regard. He had to be their most respected veteran, and if all the talk that there's a lot of nationality based division in their locker room is true, then there's a chance that Ovechkin might listen to Federov. But they let him go, sucks to be them.
I think Fedorov left more than he was let go. Perhaps the Caps didn't have the money to sign him or whatever, but if he wanted to stay, he would've.
#70
2009-12-01 12:43
Nice to see c-blog has turned into nothing but Raybin touching himself and talking about how awesome he is. Joke.
#71
2009-12-01 12:46
I do not see how Ovechkin receives no suspension on this. So frustrating. And all we hear each time is "leading with shoulder" "other players fault, tried to get out of way" "OVES NOT A DRTY PLAYER, NO HISTORY!"
Vomit inducing. And then capitals fans turn around and play the victim card, and the Red Wings-esque "GARY BETTMAN AND THE NHL HATES US AND IS OUT TO DESTROY US"
Vomit inducing. And then capitals fans turn around and play the victim card, and the Red Wings-esque "GARY BETTMAN AND THE NHL HATES US AND IS OUT TO DESTROY US"
#72
2009-12-01 12:46
Quoting PensFan2166:
In that case, my bad. They should have done something to fill that void though. Sid's head and shoulders above Ovechkin in the leadership category, and we all saw how much it helped him when Guerin was brought in. Same kind of thing with Gonch and Geno. Lemieux and Shero understand that, Leonsis and McPhee don't.
Quoting Little Artie:Letting Federov go was probably a big mistake in that regard. He had to be their most respected veteran, and if all the talk that there's a lot of nationality based division in their locker room is true, then there's a chance that Ovechkin might listen to Federov. But they let him go, sucks to be them.
I think Fedorov left more than he was let go. Perhaps the Caps didn't have the money to sign him or whatever, but if he wanted to stay, he would've.
In that case, my bad. They should have done something to fill that void though. Sid's head and shoulders above Ovechkin in the leadership category, and we all saw how much it helped him when Guerin was brought in. Same kind of thing with Gonch and Geno. Lemieux and Shero understand that, Leonsis and McPhee don't.
#73
2009-12-01 12:48
Forgot to mention that I totally just went to order one of those penguins "tobacco pipes/souvenirs," and they are already sold out. Failcity
#74
2009-12-01 12:49
Quoting Little Artie:
Thanks Pierre McGuire.
Sid's head and shoulders above Ovechkin in the leadership category
Thanks Pierre McGuire.
#75
2009-12-01 12:51
Quoting FlyerHater:
Be lying if I said I didn't see that coming.
Quoting Little Artie:Sid's head and shoulders above Ovechkin in the leadership category
Thanks Pierre McGuire.
Be lying if I said I didn't see that coming.
#76
2009-12-01 12:51
Quoting IanMoran24:
I'll give you 3 reasons:
1. He's a superstar and puts asses in seats and in front of TVs
2. He has "no history"
3. He was injured on the play (perhaps the biggest contributing factor if he's not suspended)
I do not see how Ovechkin receives no suspension on this.
I'll give you 3 reasons:
1. He's a superstar and puts asses in seats and in front of TVs
2. He has "no history"
3. He was injured on the play (perhaps the biggest contributing factor if he's not suspended)
#77
2009-12-01 12:52
Quoting Russ Muffin:
I heard the question posed to Brucie on Fan 950 a few weeks back. They asked him about asking Ovechkin to tone back on the way he plays. He said that he wouldn't ask Ovie to tone down the physicality of his game. He said that he has a hard enough time getting Ovechkin to play defense that doing would take too much from his game.
What he says between the lines is that if he asked him to quit running and hitting people, then he'd be absolutely worthless outside of the offensive zone because he's un-coachable.
Quote:I believe Boudreau, while in line for cookies and pie at Golden Corral, mentioned something about Ovechkin's hitting and lack of defense being a "part of his game," and saying that its not fair for him as a coach to ask him to change his style. Too lazy to look it up, but it speaks volumes of the moronism present in the Craps organization.
Doubt it. I believe he was inline at the Subway ordering his footlong.
BTW does he not look like Don Rickles? Only fatter.
I heard the question posed to Brucie on Fan 950 a few weeks back. They asked him about asking Ovechkin to tone back on the way he plays. He said that he wouldn't ask Ovie to tone down the physicality of his game. He said that he has a hard enough time getting Ovechkin to play defense that doing would take too much from his game.
What he says between the lines is that if he asked him to quit running and hitting people, then he'd be absolutely worthless outside of the offensive zone because he's un-coachable.
#78
2009-12-01 12:58
Quoting PensFan2166:
That, and word is he gives the best pre-game blow jobs in the business. Without him, his teammates would be too tense during the game, causing each of them to uncontrollably fall to the ice doing kegel's.
Quoting IanMoran24:I do not see how Ovechkin receives no suspension on this.
I'll give you 3 reasons:
1. He's a superstar and puts asses in seats and in front of TVs
2. He has "no history"
3. He was injured on the play (perhaps the biggest contributing factor if he's not suspended)
That, and word is he gives the best pre-game blow jobs in the business. Without him, his teammates would be too tense during the game, causing each of them to uncontrollably fall to the ice doing kegel's.
#79
2009-12-01 12:58
Quoting Stilly:
The between-the-lines statement I hear is that Ovechkin is uncoachable and therefore Boudreau won't even try with him.
My commentary on that:
This makes Boudreau a worthless coach and means he's destined to have more players become uncoachable.
What he says between the lines is that if he asked him to quit running and hitting people, then he'd be absolutely worthless outside of the offensive zone because he's un-coachable.
The between-the-lines statement I hear is that Ovechkin is uncoachable and therefore Boudreau won't even try with him.
My commentary on that:
This makes Boudreau a worthless coach and means he's destined to have more players become uncoachable.
#80
2009-12-01 12:59
@IanMoran24 - One can still fellate teammates before games while serving a suspension. And the NHL won't care about the rest of the Caps - they don't put asses in seats and sell jerseys.
Ovechkin and that CrosbySucks player are the only Caps who sell jerseys consistently.
Ovechkin and that CrosbySucks player are the only Caps who sell jerseys consistently.
#81
2009-12-01 13:02
Word is ovechkin skated lightly this morning...so now my question is:
Knowing what he did, did Ovechkin embellish his injury? Probably not. But he's smart enough to know that had he been perfectly fine on the play, the chances would've been greater (although he still would not be suspended) for suspension. I wonder how much he was thinking "act as injured as possible, be the victim."
Quoting PensFan2166:
Of course the nhl doesn't care about the caps. Just ask Ted or any caps fan...they'll be sure to tell you how oppressed they are.
Knowing what he did, did Ovechkin embellish his injury? Probably not. But he's smart enough to know that had he been perfectly fine on the play, the chances would've been greater (although he still would not be suspended) for suspension. I wonder how much he was thinking "act as injured as possible, be the victim."
Quoting PensFan2166:
@IanMoran24 - One can still fellate teammates before games while serving a suspension. And the NHL won't care about the rest of the Caps - they don't put asses in seats and sell jerseys.
Ovechkin and that CrosbySucks player are the only Caps who sell jerseys consistently.
Of course the nhl doesn't care about the caps. Just ask Ted or any caps fan...they'll be sure to tell you how oppressed they are.
#84
2009-12-01 13:04
Quote:
I'll be that guy. I advocate it strongly. He is a poop-stain on humanity and should be killed before he can breed. That is all.
woooooooooooooo ooo
Go Pens
And don't get me wrong, by no means am I advocating somebody ending Ovechkin's career.
I'll be that guy. I advocate it strongly. He is a poop-stain on humanity and should be killed before he can breed. That is all.
woooooooooooooo ooo
Go Pens
#85
2009-12-01 13:06
Quoting dying alive:
What? He's a nagger.
Rupp owns your face. Too bad he's getting dragged down by getting so much ice time with that albatross Crosby.
Glad to see recaps back. That South Park reference is 100 levels of wrong.
What? He's a nagger.
#86
2009-12-01 13:06
My tummy's turnin'
And I'm feeling like a homo
Too much pressure
And I'm nervous
That's when they started to Rock the Red on the radio
And the Ovie song was on
And the Ovie song was on
And the Ovie song was on
So I put my hands up
They're playin' my song
The butterflies fly away
Aiming for Gleason's knee like 'Yeah'
Slewfooting Peverley like 'Yeah' (WOOO HOOO!)
I got my elbows up
They're playing my song
I know my knee is gonna be okay
Yeah
It's a Party in the USA
Yeah
It's a Party in the USA!!!
And I'm feeling like a homo
Too much pressure
And I'm nervous
That's when they started to Rock the Red on the radio
And the Ovie song was on
And the Ovie song was on
And the Ovie song was on
So I put my hands up
They're playin' my song
The butterflies fly away
Aiming for Gleason's knee like 'Yeah'
Slewfooting Peverley like 'Yeah' (WOOO HOOO!)
I got my elbows up
They're playing my song
I know my knee is gonna be okay
Yeah
It's a Party in the USA
Yeah
It's a Party in the USA!!!
#87
2009-12-01 13:08
Quoting PapaQBear:
Wow. Well done.
My tummy's turnin'
And I'm feeling like a homo
Too much pressure
And I'm nervous
That's when they started to Rock the Red on the radio
And the Ovie song was on
And the Ovie song was on
And the Ovie song was on
So I put my hands up
They're playin' my song
The butterflies fly away
Aiming for Gleason's knee like 'Yeah'
Slewfooting Peverley like 'Yeah' (WOOO HOOO!)
I got my elbows up
They're playing my song
I know my knee is gonna be okay
Yeah
It's a Party in the USA
Yeah
It's a Party in the USA!!!
Wow. Well done.
#88
2009-12-01 13:08
Quoting PensFan2166:
As much as Caps fans like to set up a strawman by accusing us of Ovie envy, I wouldn't want him on the Pens. And yes, I'm totally serious. He would be incredible on the wing with Sid or Geno, that's undeniable. He's a generational talent. He's also proven to be reckless at best/dirty at worst, an NFL-quality showboater, a selfish player, and appears to be uncoachable. Throw in the fact that he couldn't find the defensive zone with a GPS and for me the negatives outweigh the positives, and that's saying something considering how many positives he brings to the table. It's only going to get worse as he ages and loses a step from his game and the skills start to decline. A player with that much skill and ability to take over a game shouldn't ever be a liability or a loose cannon and when they are, you can't overlook a red flag like that.
For as talented as he can be, Ovechkin wouldn't fit/be welcome on about 1/3 to 1/2 the teams in the NHL. Imagine if Ovechkin had the personal misfortune of playing for a guy like Mike Keenan, Scotty Bowman, Kevin Constantine, or even Michel Therrien - he'd quickly get an attitude adjustment.
As much as Caps fans like to set up a strawman by accusing us of Ovie envy, I wouldn't want him on the Pens. And yes, I'm totally serious. He would be incredible on the wing with Sid or Geno, that's undeniable. He's a generational talent. He's also proven to be reckless at best/dirty at worst, an NFL-quality showboater, a selfish player, and appears to be uncoachable. Throw in the fact that he couldn't find the defensive zone with a GPS and for me the negatives outweigh the positives, and that's saying something considering how many positives he brings to the table. It's only going to get worse as he ages and loses a step from his game and the skills start to decline. A player with that much skill and ability to take over a game shouldn't ever be a liability or a loose cannon and when they are, you can't overlook a red flag like that.
#89
2009-12-01 13:11
Quote:
Well, well. Look who ain't grounded any more!!
woooooooooooooo ooooo
Took long enough. Dick.
Nice to see c-blog has turned into nothing but Raybin touching himself and talking about how awesome he is. Joke.
Well, well. Look who ain't grounded any more!!
woooooooooooooo ooooo
Took long enough. Dick.
#90
2009-12-01 13:11
Hello stupid people in DC..
This was a quote to the Ovi Skates post..
"Glad he's skating. Seems like any injury he may have sustained mustn't have been too bad. Rest up and get well, Ovi. Let's just hope the league doesn't take action against him. I don't think that this rises to the level of a suspendable offense. It's iffy at best that he led with the knee... it's more a case of Gleeson moving last second the wrong way away from what was going to be a big, clean, open-ice hit. Ovi's physical, but he's not a goon."
Ugh, when are they gonna get a clue..
This was a quote to the Ovi Skates post..
"Glad he's skating. Seems like any injury he may have sustained mustn't have been too bad. Rest up and get well, Ovi. Let's just hope the league doesn't take action against him. I don't think that this rises to the level of a suspendable offense. It's iffy at best that he led with the knee... it's more a case of Gleeson moving last second the wrong way away from what was going to be a big, clean, open-ice hit. Ovi's physical, but he's not a goon."
Ugh, when are they gonna get a clue..
#91
2009-12-01 13:13
Quote:
and we all know...a nagger gotta do what a nagger gotta do.
What? He's a nagger.
and we all know...a nagger gotta do what a nagger gotta do.
#92
2009-12-01 13:13
Just for the record, I had to look up the lyrics for the song. I am not a fan of Miley Cyrus, and I'm only wearing Hanna Montana shades right now because I can't find my Zac Efron "I love Troy" shades.
Must be under my Jonas Brothers PJs.
I am not a homo!
Must be under my Jonas Brothers PJs.
I am not a homo!
#93
2009-12-01 13:14
@DA - There is one more thing about Ovechkin that you forgot to list. He fleeced the Caps for every last penny he could get when he got his big contract. I'm all in favor of players earning a good living - but by demanding/taking every last penny, he handcuffed the Caps. With no salary cap room, they'll have trouble re-signing certain players. Were Ovechkin on the Pens, Shero may have had to decide between Sid and Ovechkin (making the obvious assumption that Malkin would be a Blackhawk had the Pens gotten Ovechkin). Gone would probably be a couple of players like Staal, Orpik, and/or Fleury.
#94
2009-12-01 13:14
Quote:
If that ever happened I'd stop watching hockey. Seriously.
As much as Caps fans like to set up a strawman by accusing us of Ovie envy, I wouldn't want him on the Pens. And yes, I'm totally serious.
If that ever happened I'd stop watching hockey. Seriously.
#95
2009-12-01 13:17
Quoting Rage:
That makes two of us..
If that ever happened I'd stop watching hockey. Seriously.
That makes two of us..
#96
2009-12-01 13:20
@DA
Agreed. I'd take a healthy Gaborik over Ovechkin any day of the week. Even Nash or Iginla. They might not give the same kind of production, but you'd win every Cup from here to eternity.
Agreed. I'd take a healthy Gaborik over Ovechkin any day of the week. Even Nash or Iginla. They might not give the same kind of production, but you'd win every Cup from here to eternity.
#97
2009-12-01 13:23
Quoting Little Artie:
Nash would be #1 on my wish list if salary cap wasn't a consideration. I love the way he plays. He seems happy in Columbus, though, so good for him. The Pens couldn't afford him anyway so let him stay in the West.
@DA
Agreed. I'd take a healthy Gaborik over Ovechkin any day of the week. Even Nash or Iginla. They might not give the same kind of production, but you'd win every Cup from here to eternity.
Nash would be #1 on my wish list if salary cap wasn't a consideration. I love the way he plays. He seems happy in Columbus, though, so good for him. The Pens couldn't afford him anyway so let him stay in the West.
#98
2009-12-01 13:25
Hmm.
Think about this..
I think Ovi is really hurt but doesn't want to appear to be. The reason?
If he's declared as being "unable to play" He'll sit. If he's suspended, the games missed will be tacked on AFTER he is cleared okay to play.
He is fakes it and says he's okay to play he'll just be suspended and then sit while recovering. The end result is less games missed.
Thoughts?
Think about this..
I think Ovi is really hurt but doesn't want to appear to be. The reason?
If he's declared as being "unable to play" He'll sit. If he's suspended, the games missed will be tacked on AFTER he is cleared okay to play.
He is fakes it and says he's okay to play he'll just be suspended and then sit while recovering. The end result is less games missed.
Thoughts?
#99
2009-12-01 13:28
Quoting Whistler:
My thoughts are that the NHL will await word on his status before deciding on a suspension and when the suspension would start - IF one is given.
Hmm.
Think about this..
I think Ovi is really hurt but doesn't want to appear to be. The reason?
If he's declared as being "unable to play" He'll sit. If he's suspended, the games missed will be tacked on AFTER he is cleared okay to play.
He is fakes it and says he's okay to play he'll just be suspended and then sit while recovering. The end result is less games missed.
Thoughts?
My thoughts are that the NHL will await word on his status before deciding on a suspension and when the suspension would start - IF one is given.
#100
2009-12-01 13:31
Quoting FlyerHater:
When you're as fucking awesome as I am, you need to let people know.
Nice to see you. Better stick around, dicktoucher.
Nice to see c-blog has turned into nothing but Raybin touching himself and talking about how awesome he is. Joke.
When you're as fucking awesome as I am, you need to let people know.
Nice to see you. Better stick around, dicktoucher.
#101
2009-12-01 13:32
Quoting FlyerHater:
Jesus Tapdancing Christ.
I've never been so happy to see Raybin get jobbed in my life.
Nice to see c-blog has turned into nothing but Raybin touching himself and talking about how awesome he is. Joke.
Jesus Tapdancing Christ.
I've never been so happy to see Raybin get jobbed in my life.
#102
2009-12-01 13:35
Quoting Stoosh:
That makes two of us. I'm just glad to know he's apparently finally finished with puberty and can maybe hang around for a while.
Quoting FlyerHater:Nice to see c-blog has turned into nothing but Raybin touching himself and talking about how awesome he is. Joke.
Jesus Tapdancing Christ.
I've never been so happy to see Raybin get jobbed in my life.
That makes two of us. I'm just glad to know he's apparently finally finished with puberty and can maybe hang around for a while.
#103
2009-12-01 13:37
I dont know if I remember a night like last night in awhile:
1. Rupper get the HT for his kids b-day
2.Sid killed us during this home and home, fucking terrible
3. Keith Ballard cracks his own goalie in the skull with a baseball swing out of frustration of playing for the Panthers
4. 2,579 people showed up in Atlanta to see it
5. Alex the Douchebag takes himself out with yet another knee-on-knee collision
6. Joe Corvo suffers a deep gash on the back of his leg when some jokes skate comes up and slices him
7. Toronto loses again
8. Flyers are all jackoffs
1. Rupper get the HT for his kids b-day
2.Sid killed us during this home and home, fucking terrible
3. Keith Ballard cracks his own goalie in the skull with a baseball swing out of frustration of playing for the Panthers
4. 2,579 people showed up in Atlanta to see it
5. Alex the Douchebag takes himself out with yet another knee-on-knee collision
6. Joe Corvo suffers a deep gash on the back of his leg when some jokes skate comes up and slices him
7. Toronto loses again
8. Flyers are all jackoffs
#104
2009-12-01 13:45
Quote:
and if he can stop getting grounded from his parents' computer for looking at dick touching.
[EDIT] @Stoosh: Jesus says NO to tapdancing. He does, however krump.
I'm just glad to know he's apparently finally finished with puberty and can maybe hang around for a while.
and if he can stop getting grounded from his parents' computer for looking at dick touching.
[EDIT] @Stoosh: Jesus says NO to tapdancing. He does, however krump.
#105
2009-12-01 13:46
Quoting Whistler:
I don't think the NHL offices would take kindly to that kind of chicanery. If the Caps organization says, "oh, he's not that injured, he'll serve his suspension" and then after the suspension was up the Caps put him on IR or whatever, they've publicly done an end-around on the disciplinary committee and I don't think that's a path they want to go down, especially considering that with the way Ovechkin plays this isn't likely to be his last brush with them. They've given him tons of leeway so far - more than just about anyone else in the league would get if they were in the situations he's been in - but any goodwill they'd have toward him would be out the window in an instant if the Caps organization pulled a stunt like that. The NHL is already in a no-win situation here - they can either suspend one of their superstars or let him go with a slap on the wrist and prove beyond a doubt that there really is a double standard when it comes to discipline. The Caps making it any worse than it already is would backfire on them in a huge way.
Not to mention that if If the trainers allowed a $100MM player to skate on a severe injury solely to give the appearance that he's not as injured as he actually is, they should be fired or disbarred or whatever they do to trainers who suck at their jobs.
Hmm.
Think about this..
I think Ovi is really hurt but doesn't want to appear to be. The reason?
If he's declared as being "unable to play" He'll sit. If he's suspended, the games missed will be tacked on AFTER he is cleared okay to play.
He is fakes it and says he's okay to play he'll just be suspended and then sit while recovering. The end result is less games missed.
Thoughts?
I don't think the NHL offices would take kindly to that kind of chicanery. If the Caps organization says, "oh, he's not that injured, he'll serve his suspension" and then after the suspension was up the Caps put him on IR or whatever, they've publicly done an end-around on the disciplinary committee and I don't think that's a path they want to go down, especially considering that with the way Ovechkin plays this isn't likely to be his last brush with them. They've given him tons of leeway so far - more than just about anyone else in the league would get if they were in the situations he's been in - but any goodwill they'd have toward him would be out the window in an instant if the Caps organization pulled a stunt like that. The NHL is already in a no-win situation here - they can either suspend one of their superstars or let him go with a slap on the wrist and prove beyond a doubt that there really is a double standard when it comes to discipline. The Caps making it any worse than it already is would backfire on them in a huge way.
Not to mention that if If the trainers allowed a $100MM player to skate on a severe injury solely to give the appearance that he's not as injured as he actually is, they should be fired or disbarred or whatever they do to trainers who suck at their jobs.
#106
2009-12-01 13:50
That pic of AO reminded me of my favorite hockey photoshop of all time: 
EDIT: Bigger pic would have been better but I'm too lazy to go look...would love to see a shop expert put AO and Lindros together in the fetal position...
EDIT: Bigger pic would have been better but I'm too lazy to go look...would love to see a shop expert put AO and Lindros together in the fetal position...
#107
2009-12-01 13:51
Quoting dying alive:
Put them on the Flyers staff
Not to mention that if If the trainers allowed a $100MM player to skate on a severe injury solely to give the appearance that he's not as injured as he actually is, they should be fired or disbarred or whatever they do to trainers who suck at their jobs.
Put them on the Flyers staff
#108
2009-12-01 13:55
Looks like somebody isn't going to learn a lesson...
Ovechkin speaking to the media:
"How can you tell me, like, you just have to stop playing how you play?...
I play risky. I don't try a dirty hit, make some people get hurt. But sometimes people just turn back or turn right away so I don't have time to realize and stop. What can you do? You can't do nothing?...Why I have listen somebody to say I have to change game. Nobody can kill me. Just play my game."
Ovechkin speaking to the media:
"How can you tell me, like, you just have to stop playing how you play?...
I play risky. I don't try a dirty hit, make some people get hurt. But sometimes people just turn back or turn right away so I don't have time to realize and stop. What can you do? You can't do nothing?...Why I have listen somebody to say I have to change game. Nobody can kill me. Just play my game."
#109
2009-12-01 13:56
Look at what the tools on Japers Rink posted:
"C an’t say it wasn’t a bad hit
R eally, he was leading with his shoulder
O vie doesn’t play dirty, just hard
S till won the game, even without him
B ut hopefully he won’t be out long
Y es, it was knee-on-knee though
S omehow the league will let him off
U ntil the next game misconduct
C an’t tell me he’s not the best in the world
K aleta wasn’t hurt, neither was Gleason
S idney Crosby SUCKS "
Somehow they turn Ovechkin cheap shot/injury into a Crosby conversation. Sorry, Crosby couldn't hear you over the puck hitting the back of the net 5 times in the last two games.
"C an’t say it wasn’t a bad hit
R eally, he was leading with his shoulder
O vie doesn’t play dirty, just hard
S till won the game, even without him
B ut hopefully he won’t be out long
Y es, it was knee-on-knee though
S omehow the league will let him off
U ntil the next game misconduct
C an’t tell me he’s not the best in the world
K aleta wasn’t hurt, neither was Gleason
S idney Crosby SUCKS "
Somehow they turn Ovechkin cheap shot/injury into a Crosby conversation. Sorry, Crosby couldn't hear you over the puck hitting the back of the net 5 times in the last two games.
#110
2009-12-01 13:56
Quoting PensFan2166:
Rescue 911: Keith Jones edition.
Put them on the Flyers staff
Rescue 911: Keith Jones edition.
#111
2009-12-01 13:58
Quoting TheTaxidermist:
and ur an idiot.
Quoting dying alive:Rupp owns your face. Too bad he's getting dragged down by getting so much ice time with that albatross Crosby.
Glad to see recaps back. That South Park reference is 100 levels of wrong.
What? He's a nagger.
and ur an idiot.
#112
2009-12-01 13:58
Quoting PensFan2166:
Not only that...
It's going to make it increasingly difficult for them to make a deal to significantly upgrade their defense and goaltending at the deadline without dealing someone from the core.
Let's face it, this Caps team isn't getting out of the second round with this current roster. It's a much different game that is played in the playoffs as we saw last year. A defensive corps that is nothing more than a glorified forward and five players who would be 5/6/7 defensemen at best on any other playoff team wouldn't cut it if they were playing in front of Martin Brodeur or Patrick Roy. Last time I checked, the Caps have a still-unproven rookie and a shaky veteran who opened the playoffs last year by doing little more than shitting all over himself.
They need to upgrade their defense, but their roster is laden with a few core players they don't want to trade, a bunch of depth players that aren't the type of players a rebuilding team would want in exchange for that impact-caliber veteran defenseman at the deadline (Fleishmann, Steckel, Fehr, Gordon, Bradley, Morrisonn, Jurcina, Pothier) and the following bad contracts that no one's going to want:
- Theodore - $4.5 million cap hit for this year
- Mike Knuble - $2.8M this year and next
- Chris Clark - $2.6M this year and next (for basically standing there and wearing a "C")
- Tom Poti - $3.5M for this year and next
They also have Semin and Backstrom up for restricted free agency, and each of them are going to want raises. Semin is a $4.6M hit right now and Backstrom is $2.4M. Semin's going to want at least $5M to stick around. And don't think for a second that Backstrom and his agent didn't see what Marc Savard just signed on for to stay in Boston ($4.2M cap hit for seven years).
Oh, and they really don't have any bonafide prospect depth, either.
In other words, I don't see the Caps changing their roster all that much over the next few months and making the necessary upgrades to make that team into something capable of winning four straight series of playoff hockey.
@DA - There is one more thing about Ovechkin that you forgot to list. He fleeced the Caps for every last penny he could get when he got his big contract. I'm all in favor of players earning a good living - but by demanding/taking every last penny, he handcuffed the Caps. With no salary cap room, they'll have trouble re-signing certain players.
Not only that...
It's going to make it increasingly difficult for them to make a deal to significantly upgrade their defense and goaltending at the deadline without dealing someone from the core.
Let's face it, this Caps team isn't getting out of the second round with this current roster. It's a much different game that is played in the playoffs as we saw last year. A defensive corps that is nothing more than a glorified forward and five players who would be 5/6/7 defensemen at best on any other playoff team wouldn't cut it if they were playing in front of Martin Brodeur or Patrick Roy. Last time I checked, the Caps have a still-unproven rookie and a shaky veteran who opened the playoffs last year by doing little more than shitting all over himself.
They need to upgrade their defense, but their roster is laden with a few core players they don't want to trade, a bunch of depth players that aren't the type of players a rebuilding team would want in exchange for that impact-caliber veteran defenseman at the deadline (Fleishmann, Steckel, Fehr, Gordon, Bradley, Morrisonn, Jurcina, Pothier) and the following bad contracts that no one's going to want:
- Theodore - $4.5 million cap hit for this year
- Mike Knuble - $2.8M this year and next
- Chris Clark - $2.6M this year and next (for basically standing there and wearing a "C")
- Tom Poti - $3.5M for this year and next
They also have Semin and Backstrom up for restricted free agency, and each of them are going to want raises. Semin is a $4.6M hit right now and Backstrom is $2.4M. Semin's going to want at least $5M to stick around. And don't think for a second that Backstrom and his agent didn't see what Marc Savard just signed on for to stay in Boston ($4.2M cap hit for seven years).
Oh, and they really don't have any bonafide prospect depth, either.
In other words, I don't see the Caps changing their roster all that much over the next few months and making the necessary upgrades to make that team into something capable of winning four straight series of playoff hockey.
#113
2009-12-01 13:59
And five footlong Boudreau admitting he has no control over his team:
"He's pretty reckless...It's hard telling a guy that scores 60 goals a year to change the way he plays. At the same time, I don't want to see him getting hurt. Maybe he has to be a little more ... pick his spots a little better. The open-ice hits. It's not only the hitter; the guy who's getting hit is also moving fast, too. You're lining guys up to hit him, and once they move everything gets exposed...It's something that'll have to be addressed by us," said the coach, who said it hasn't been addressed with Ovechkin yet. "I don't think anything said is going to change the way he plays."
"He's pretty reckless...It's hard telling a guy that scores 60 goals a year to change the way he plays. At the same time, I don't want to see him getting hurt. Maybe he has to be a little more ... pick his spots a little better. The open-ice hits. It's not only the hitter; the guy who's getting hit is also moving fast, too. You're lining guys up to hit him, and once they move everything gets exposed...It's something that'll have to be addressed by us," said the coach, who said it hasn't been addressed with Ovechkin yet. "I don't think anything said is going to change the way he plays."
#114
2009-12-01 14:01
Quoting Elmo:
And with that, Ovechkin solidified his spot as a dirty player. He knows what he's doing can and will lead to injury, but he continues to do it.
Nobody can kill you? Maybe, but there's plenty of guys who can give you the Steve Moore treatment, and unfortunately, if you keep it up, somebody will.
Looks like somebody isn't going to learn a lesson...
Ovechkin speaking to the media:
"How can you tell me, like, you just have to stop playing how you play?...
I play risky. I don't try a dirty hit, make some people get hurt. But sometimes people just turn back or turn right away so I don't have time to realize and stop. What can you do? You can't do nothing?...Why I have listen somebody to say I have to change game. Nobody can kill me. Just play my game."
And with that, Ovechkin solidified his spot as a dirty player. He knows what he's doing can and will lead to injury, but he continues to do it.
Nobody can kill you? Maybe, but there's plenty of guys who can give you the Steve Moore treatment, and unfortunately, if you keep it up, somebody will.
#115
2009-12-01 14:04
Quoting TheTaxidermist:
Meh, really only one appropriate response to that:
Look at what the tools on Japers Rink posted:
"C an’t say it wasn’t a bad hit
R eally, he was leading with his shoulder
O vie doesn’t play dirty, just hard
S till won the game, even without him
B ut hopefully he won’t be out long
Y es, it was knee-on-knee though
S omehow the league will let him off
U ntil the next game misconduct
C an’t tell me he’s not the best in the world
K aleta wasn’t hurt, neither was Gleason
S idney Crosby SUCKS "
Somehow they turn Ovechkin cheap shot/injury into a Crosby conversation. Sorry, Crosby couldn't hear you over the puck hitting the back of the net 5 times in the last two games.
Meh, really only one appropriate response to that:
#116
2009-12-01 14:06
If we had a hard time labeling Ovi as a douchebag I think that quote sums it up.
Ovi has finally find a way to find the "i" in team.
Ovi has finally find a way to find the "i" in team.
#117
2009-12-01 14:07
Quoting Jovi:
Obviously somebody doesn't watch South Park.
NSFW I guess... www.youtube.com/watch?v=c67r-Kgn980
Quoting TheTaxidermist:Quoting dying alive:Rupp owns your face. Too bad he's getting dragged down by getting so much ice time with that albatross Crosby.
Glad to see recaps back. That South Park reference is 100 levels of wrong.
What? He's a nagger.
and ur an idiot.
Obviously somebody doesn't watch South Park.
NSFW I guess... www.youtube.com/watch?v=c67r-Kgn980
#118
2009-12-01 14:13
@Stoosh
As usual, I agree with most everything you said, but I would not be surprised if they don't at least try to move Semin for a true #1 defenseman. If it comes down to Semin or Backstrom, they'll be keeping Backstrom (and rightfully so)
Semin right now is the most tradeable asset they have and it would not shock me a bit to see him sent away for a shutdown guy to pair with Mike Green.
I'd say there's an outside chance that a team who wants a decent veteran backup in the playoffs in case the #1 goes down might be willing to take on the portion of Theodore's contract they'd be on the hook for from the deadline to the end. Won't hold my breath, though.
I still say keep an eye on Mike Neuvirth in Hershey. I really think he can be the guy we all thought Varlamov was before the Pens figured him out.
You're right though...the Caps as currently constituted are not a Stanley Cup winning team and don't look to be for some time. As you say: Ovechkin covers so many holes on that team, but the playoffs are a different story.
EDIT: Doing a real quick glance at rosters and salary, if I'm George McPhee, I'm going to see if I can dangle Semin in front of Columbus in exchange for Commodore or Tyutin and a prospect/pick. Neither of those guys are beasts, but they certainly are an improvement over what they have now. Columbus might be more willing to be persuaded to part with one of them with the emergence of Klesla this year. It's not like Columbus couldn't use the scoring depth too.
As usual, I agree with most everything you said, but I would not be surprised if they don't at least try to move Semin for a true #1 defenseman. If it comes down to Semin or Backstrom, they'll be keeping Backstrom (and rightfully so)
Semin right now is the most tradeable asset they have and it would not shock me a bit to see him sent away for a shutdown guy to pair with Mike Green.
I'd say there's an outside chance that a team who wants a decent veteran backup in the playoffs in case the #1 goes down might be willing to take on the portion of Theodore's contract they'd be on the hook for from the deadline to the end. Won't hold my breath, though.
I still say keep an eye on Mike Neuvirth in Hershey. I really think he can be the guy we all thought Varlamov was before the Pens figured him out.
You're right though...the Caps as currently constituted are not a Stanley Cup winning team and don't look to be for some time. As you say: Ovechkin covers so many holes on that team, but the playoffs are a different story.
EDIT: Doing a real quick glance at rosters and salary, if I'm George McPhee, I'm going to see if I can dangle Semin in front of Columbus in exchange for Commodore or Tyutin and a prospect/pick. Neither of those guys are beasts, but they certainly are an improvement over what they have now. Columbus might be more willing to be persuaded to part with one of them with the emergence of Klesla this year. It's not like Columbus couldn't use the scoring depth too.
#119
2009-12-01 14:27
@Jaspersdouchey postblog - If Crosby sucks so much, why was he able to single-handedly dismantle the Caps in the playoffs? I've never seen sucky players take over a series like that. So Caps fans can go ahead and say Crosby sucks all they want - it helps take away the sting they feel when examining the shortcomings of their own team.
#120
2009-12-01 14:29
Quoting Stoosh:
Amen to all of that, Stoosh. When you lay it all out there like that, it really makes you wonder what they have been thinking. Maybe it is just the difference between a team that apparently thinks that it is still 1994 and that there is no cap versus a team like the Pens that has learned some very hard lessons about how and where to spend money. It also illustrates that to a large extent, the key to the Pens' success was really the drafting of Fleury and the development of their defensemen prospects. Skilled players are great but defense still wins you the Cup.
In other words, I don't see the Caps changing their roster all that much over the next few months and making the necessary upgrades to make that team into something capable of winning four straight series of playoff hockey.
Amen to all of that, Stoosh. When you lay it all out there like that, it really makes you wonder what they have been thinking. Maybe it is just the difference between a team that apparently thinks that it is still 1994 and that there is no cap versus a team like the Pens that has learned some very hard lessons about how and where to spend money. It also illustrates that to a large extent, the key to the Pens' success was really the drafting of Fleury and the development of their defensemen prospects. Skilled players are great but defense still wins you the Cup.
#121
2009-12-01 14:29
@Raybin - Unless they'd be bringing him in for mercenary purposes only, I don't see Columbus (a team losing $13M+ per season) bringing in Semin and his (what are surely to be outrageous) demands for a new contract. At least not for guys they have signed for longer than June 30, 2010.
#122
2009-12-01 14:30
If Ovie gets suspended, and tones it down, the Caps become a better team.
I hope he stays nuts...why would we want him to change?
I hope he stays nuts...why would we want him to change?
#123
2009-12-01 14:31
Quoting Pen_City:
Agreed on both counts
If Ovie gets suspended, and tones it down, the Caps become a better team.
I hope he stays nuts...why would we want him to change?
Agreed on both counts
#124
2009-12-01 14:33
Quoting PensFan2166:
I was more looking at cap room than financials to see if they could afford it....but I think the franchise should be fine. Now that they've got their captain and superstar locked up long term and are finally putting pieces in place around him, I'd say the team's financial woes will be a thing of the past in a few years.
At the worst, if they need to find a buyer or major investor who will keep them there (back off Balsille!), it probably won't be that difficult.
@Raybin - Unless they'd be bringing him in for mercenary purposes only, I don't see Columbus (a team losing $13M+ per season) bringing in Semin and his (what are surely to be outrageous) demands for a new contract. At least not for guys they have signed for longer than June 30, 2010.
I was more looking at cap room than financials to see if they could afford it....but I think the franchise should be fine. Now that they've got their captain and superstar locked up long term and are finally putting pieces in place around him, I'd say the team's financial woes will be a thing of the past in a few years.
At the worst, if they need to find a buyer or major investor who will keep them there (back off Balsille!), it probably won't be that difficult.
#125
2009-12-01 14:34
Quoting Stoosh:
Do they still have Nylander on the books as well? For this year and next at like $4.8M or something like that?
EDIT: Did some research...he is.
www.nhlnumbers.com/.../
Interesting to note here that just about every player they have is a free agent after this season or next, save the back forward and monkey. And I believe Semin stated that he is not taking a discount to play with Ovie. Interesting to see what happens with them.
bad contracts that no one's going to want:
- Theodore - $4.5 million cap hit for this year
- Mike Knuble - $2.8M this year and next
- Chris Clark - $2.6M this year and next (for basically standing there and wearing a "C")
- Tom Poti - $3.5M for this year and next
They also have Semin and Backstrom up for restricted free agency, and each of them are going to want raises. Semin is a $4.6M hit right now and Backstrom is $2.4M. Semin's going to want at least $5M to stick around. And don't think for a second that Backstrom and his agent didn't see what Marc Savard just signed on for to stay in Boston ($4.2M cap hit for seven years).
Do they still have Nylander on the books as well? For this year and next at like $4.8M or something like that?
EDIT: Did some research...he is.
www.nhlnumbers.com/.../
Interesting to note here that just about every player they have is a free agent after this season or next, save the back forward and monkey. And I believe Semin stated that he is not taking a discount to play with Ovie. Interesting to see what happens with them.
#126
2009-12-01 14:36
Quoting pensfan:
Last I heard, they were trying to convince him to go to the KHL so they could at least take that contract off their cap. Dunno about actually paying him, but money isn't a problem for Fat Ted at the moment. If they fail at that--and I haven't heard what happened there--they'll probably have to buy him out.
Quoting Stoosh:bad contracts that no one's going to want:
- Theodore - $4.5 million cap hit for this year
- Mike Knuble - $2.8M this year and next
- Chris Clark - $2.6M this year and next (for basically standing there and wearing a "C")
- Tom Poti - $3.5M for this year and next
They also have Semin and Backstrom up for restricted free agency, and each of them are going to want raises
Do they still have Nylander on the books as well? For this year and next at like $4.8M or something like that?
Last I heard, they were trying to convince him to go to the KHL so they could at least take that contract off their cap. Dunno about actually paying him, but money isn't a problem for Fat Ted at the moment. If they fail at that--and I haven't heard what happened there--they'll probably have to buy him out.
#127
2009-12-01 14:38
Quoting Pen_City:
So we can give the appearance that what we really care about is the success of the game rather than our own team? I dunno.
I hope he doesn't change either, and I don't think he will.
If Ovie gets suspended, and tones it down, the Caps become a better team.
I hope he stays nuts...why would we want him to change?
So we can give the appearance that what we really care about is the success of the game rather than our own team? I dunno.
I hope he doesn't change either, and I don't think he will.
#128
2009-12-01 14:38
Quoting Raybin:
The last thing I read was that they are hoping to get him to go to the KHL so they can clear him from the cap but he doesn't want to go until he can get a contract with an out clause so that he can up and move to any team (NHL or KHL) who produces a better offer. It seems like Nylander's being intentionally difficult but I can't be sure that's the case. There may be (and probably are) some behind-the-scenes things which aren't being reported that are contributing to this Mexican standoff.
Last I heard, they were trying to convince him to go to the KHL so they could at least take that contract off their cap. Dunno about actually paying him, but money isn't a problem for Fat Ted at the moment. If they fail at that--and I haven't heard what happened there--they'll probably have to buy him out.
The last thing I read was that they are hoping to get him to go to the KHL so they can clear him from the cap but he doesn't want to go until he can get a contract with an out clause so that he can up and move to any team (NHL or KHL) who produces a better offer. It seems like Nylander's being intentionally difficult but I can't be sure that's the case. There may be (and probably are) some behind-the-scenes things which aren't being reported that are contributing to this Mexican standoff.
#129
2009-12-01 14:38
Quoting Elmo:
and that goes right together with this:
Quoting via PD. Referring to Ovechkin::
Sounds like they are waiting to hear if Campbell will be sending down a suspension before they talk about missing any games due to the result of that hit. Which is fitting for the Caps.
And five footlong Boudreau admitting
who said it hasn't been addressed with Ovechkin yet.
and that goes right together with this:
Quoting via PD. Referring to Ovechkin::
He wouldn't comment on an MRI, and wouldn't comment on whether he'd miss any games due to injury. "Not bad injury. I thought it was going to be worse," he said. "Thanks god I can walk, I can skate. Of course, it's a little sore."
Boudreau wouldn't rule out Thursday's game against the Florida Panthers, but expects to know more in the next 24 hours.
sports.yahoo.com/.../...
Sounds like they are waiting to hear if Campbell will be sending down a suspension before they talk about missing any games due to the result of that hit. Which is fitting for the Caps.
#130
2009-12-01 14:39
Clearly based on the comments coming from Boudreau and Ovie himself, he won't be changing his ways any time soon. Which means that within the next year or two, we can anticipate drastic action being taken by one of the men on the previously compiled list of thugs and psychopaths. I just hope the poor douche doesn't get himself Moore'd. No one deserves that.
#131
2009-12-01 14:43
Quoting Raybin:
I'm calling it now: If Jordin Tootoo ends up on an Eastern team, shit will get real for Ovechkin rather quickly. That dude is equal parts vicious, psychotic, and remorseless. I find myself somewhat amazed when opponents escape games against the Predators without severe (cheap shot induced) injuries.
Clearly based on the comments coming from Boudreau and Ovie himself, he won't be changing his ways any time soon. Which means that within the next year or two, we can anticipate drastic action being taken by one of the men on the previously compiled list of thugs and psychopaths. I just hope the poor douche doesn't get himself Moore'd. No one deserves that.
I'm calling it now: If Jordin Tootoo ends up on an Eastern team, shit will get real for Ovechkin rather quickly. That dude is equal parts vicious, psychotic, and remorseless. I find myself somewhat amazed when opponents escape games against the Predators without severe (cheap shot induced) injuries.
#132
2009-12-01 14:43
Quoting Raybin:
Caps fans are really bipolar when it comes to Semin, it seems. When he's playing well he's like the best player EVAR and when he's slumping he's not worth a bag of pucks and they're lining up to drive him to the airport. He would likely bring the best return of anyone they'd be willing to trade, though he seems like he might be a bit of a head case and he's up for a new contract (with an agent who has out-and-out stated that he doesn't believe in hometown discounts).
In terms of trades, you'd have to think that Ovechkin and Backstrom would be the most untouchable. I'd put Green in that category as well, since they seem to have an infatuation with him despite his inability to provide consistent defense (hilarious Norris nomination notwithstanding ). Actually, the fan base is pretty bipolar when it comes to Green as well - the either treat him as though he's Bobby Orr or as the team's whipping boy. Some team with strong stay at home D in need of a puck mover on the blue line would probably give a good return for him, but I doubt McPhee would move him. They'd be more likely to try to bring in a solid D to pair with him, as you said.
Beyond that, I'm not sure what would bring them anything more than a fairly even return. They could trade some mid-level forward for some mid-level D, but that doesn't really help them. As good as Varlamov and Neuvirth could turn out to be, they're unproven and could also turn out to be busts, so they're not going to bring a huge return that would help the Caps now.
@Stoosh
As usual, I agree with most everything you said, but I would not be surprised if they don't at least try to move Semin for a true #1 defenseman. If it comes down to Semin or Backstrom, they'll be keeping Backstrom (and rightfully so)
Semin right now is the most tradeable asset they have and it would not shock me a bit to see him sent away for a shutdown guy to pair with Mike Green.
Caps fans are really bipolar when it comes to Semin, it seems. When he's playing well he's like the best player EVAR and when he's slumping he's not worth a bag of pucks and they're lining up to drive him to the airport. He would likely bring the best return of anyone they'd be willing to trade, though he seems like he might be a bit of a head case and he's up for a new contract (with an agent who has out-and-out stated that he doesn't believe in hometown discounts).
In terms of trades, you'd have to think that Ovechkin and Backstrom would be the most untouchable. I'd put Green in that category as well, since they seem to have an infatuation with him despite his inability to provide consistent defense (hilarious Norris nomination notwithstanding ). Actually, the fan base is pretty bipolar when it comes to Green as well - the either treat him as though he's Bobby Orr or as the team's whipping boy. Some team with strong stay at home D in need of a puck mover on the blue line would probably give a good return for him, but I doubt McPhee would move him. They'd be more likely to try to bring in a solid D to pair with him, as you said.
Beyond that, I'm not sure what would bring them anything more than a fairly even return. They could trade some mid-level forward for some mid-level D, but that doesn't really help them. As good as Varlamov and Neuvirth could turn out to be, they're unproven and could also turn out to be busts, so they're not going to bring a huge return that would help the Caps now.
#133
2009-12-01 14:44
Quoting Raybin:
Eh, you're right, but he's said he won't change how he plays, and so far part of how he plays is running guys into the boards from behind. If he keeps that up there's a good chance he paralyzes someone else. And honestly, if he does end up paralyzing someone else, knowing the whole time that it was a risk, I'm not going to lose any sleep if someone returns the favor, harsh as it may be.
I just hope the poor douche doesn't get himself Moore'd. No one deserves that.
Eh, you're right, but he's said he won't change how he plays, and so far part of how he plays is running guys into the boards from behind. If he keeps that up there's a good chance he paralyzes someone else. And honestly, if he does end up paralyzing someone else, knowing the whole time that it was a risk, I'm not going to lose any sleep if someone returns the favor, harsh as it may be.
#134
2009-12-01 14:48
Quoting PensFan2166:
Hard to blame him if he's intentionally screwing over the Caps. They've treated him like shit. Not to make this yet another "Pens do it better" issue, but at least with Satan last season he was treated with the utmost respect by Shero at all times. He took his demotion like a champ and ended up getting back with the Pens in the playoffs and winning a Cup. Granted a lot of the credit for that goes to Satan himself, but by all accounts Shero, Lemieux and the coaching staff out of their way to be respectful to players who are getting scratched or waived.
The last thing I read was that they are hoping to get him to go to the KHL so they can clear him from the cap but he doesn't want to go until he can get a contract with an out clause so that he can up and move to any team (NHL or KHL) who produces a better offer. It seems like Nylander's being intentionally difficult but I can't be sure that's the case. There may be (and probably are) some behind-the-scenes things which aren't being reported that are contributing to this Mexican standoff.
Hard to blame him if he's intentionally screwing over the Caps. They've treated him like shit. Not to make this yet another "Pens do it better" issue, but at least with Satan last season he was treated with the utmost respect by Shero at all times. He took his demotion like a champ and ended up getting back with the Pens in the playoffs and winning a Cup. Granted a lot of the credit for that goes to Satan himself, but by all accounts Shero, Lemieux and the coaching staff out of their way to be respectful to players who are getting scratched or waived.
#135
2009-12-01 14:50
Quoting PensFan2166:
We should start an Ovechkin Murder Pool. Everyone picks a name and if someone does end up giving him a Lindros style concussion or season ending injury, the one who guessed right wins a prize! You've got Tootoo. I'll take Steve Ott. Anyone else?
I'm calling it now: If Jordin Tootoo ends up on an Eastern team, shit will get real for Ovechkin rather quickly. That dude is equal parts vicious, psychotic, and remorseless. I find myself somewhat amazed when opponents escape games against the Predators without severe (cheap shot induced) injuries.
We should start an Ovechkin Murder Pool. Everyone picks a name and if someone does end up giving him a Lindros style concussion or season ending injury, the one who guessed right wins a prize! You've got Tootoo. I'll take Steve Ott. Anyone else?
#136
2009-12-01 14:51
Quote:
I think Backstrom's cap hit will be a good bit higher, probably closer to $6M. The big difference between him and Savard is age.
Backstrom's 21, whereas Savard is 31. With Savard being older, the contract can be constructed so he gets the big money early, and he can either retire 4 or 5 years into the contract or play for a minimal salary ($1M or so) for the last couple years.
No way Backstrom agrees to something like that and ends up playing for peanuts just when he's hitting his prime. The only thing that would hold down Backstrom's salary is the fac that he's a restricted FA, and teams would have to give up big-time draft choices if they pay him the big bucks.
And don't think for a second that Backstrom and his agent didn't see what Marc Savard just signed on for to stay in Boston ($4.2M cap hit for seven years).
I think Backstrom's cap hit will be a good bit higher, probably closer to $6M. The big difference between him and Savard is age.
Backstrom's 21, whereas Savard is 31. With Savard being older, the contract can be constructed so he gets the big money early, and he can either retire 4 or 5 years into the contract or play for a minimal salary ($1M or so) for the last couple years.
No way Backstrom agrees to something like that and ends up playing for peanuts just when he's hitting his prime. The only thing that would hold down Backstrom's salary is the fac that he's a restricted FA, and teams would have to give up big-time draft choices if they pay him the big bucks.
#137
2009-12-01 14:51
Quoting dying alive:
This isn't a "Pens do it better" issue. Many teams try to be respectful of veterans, so the Pens aren't alone in trying to be respectful and accommodating to diffuse a potentially volatile situation. So again, this isn't a "Pens do it better" issue more than it is a "Caps do it worse" issue.
Hard to blame him if he's intentionally screwing over the Caps. They've treated him like shit. Not to make this yet another "Pens do it better" issue, but at least with Satan last season he was treated with the utmost respect by Shero at all times. He took his demotion like a champ and ended up getting back with the Pens in the playoffs and winning a Cup. Granted a lot of the credit for that goes to Satan himself, but by all accounts Shero, Lemieux and the coaching staff out of their way to be respectful to players who are getting scratched or waived.
This isn't a "Pens do it better" issue. Many teams try to be respectful of veterans, so the Pens aren't alone in trying to be respectful and accommodating to diffuse a potentially volatile situation. So again, this isn't a "Pens do it better" issue more than it is a "Caps do it worse" issue.
#138
2009-12-01 14:51
Quoting Little Artie:
Believe me, if he messes up someone's career first, all potential sympathy immediately goes out the window.
Quoting Raybin:I just hope the poor douche doesn't get himself Moore'd. No one deserves that.
Eh, you're right, but he's said he won't change how he plays, and so far part of how he plays is running guys into the boards from behind. If he keeps that up there's a good chance he paralyzes someone else. And honestly, if he does end up paralyzing someone else, knowing the whole time that it was a risk, I'm not going to lose any sleep if someone returns the favor, harsh as it may be.
Believe me, if he messes up someone's career first, all potential sympathy immediately goes out the window.
#139
2009-12-01 14:52
Quoting Raybin:
I'm going Sortini even though he's in the West and they won't see each other often. My gut tells me to go Carcillo, but I'm sticking with my first response.
Quoting PensFan2166:I'm calling it now: If Jordin Tootoo ends up on an Eastern team, shit will get real for Ovechkin rather quickly. That dude is equal parts vicious, psychotic, and remorseless. I find myself somewhat amazed when opponents escape games against the Predators without severe (cheap shot induced) injuries.
We should start an Ovechkin Murder Pool. Everyone picks a name and if someone does end up giving him a Lindros style concussion or season ending injury, the one who guessed right wins a prize! You've got Tootoo. I'll take Steve Ott. Anyone else?
I'm going Sortini even though he's in the West and they won't see each other often. My gut tells me to go Carcillo, but I'm sticking with my first response.
#140
2009-12-01 14:53
Quoting PensFan2166:
I just don't get it. Crosby, quite obviously, doesn't suck. I can understand other teams and fans wanting him to suck. I can understand them arguing that Crosby isn't as good as Ovechkin or whoever, fair enough. I can understand them criticizing him for all the crap that they say he does, even though it is really lame. But you can go into at least 3 of the largest arenas on the east coast and the fans will start Crosby sucks chants (often led by arena staff), wear clothing that says it, pee on pictures of him, pass out pacifiers, etc. Has anything like this ever happened in the NHL before? The Caps entire operational directive is Ovechkin is awesome/Crosby sucks...yet the Caps organization itself constantly compares itself to the Penguins and Crosby. The Flyers overpay really old players just at the prospect of having to play Crosby. Yet, according to all of them, Crosby sucks. Do you have any credibility left at all once you have uttered those words?
@Jaspersdouchey postblog - If Crosby sucks so much, why was he able to single-handedly dismantle the Caps in the playoffs? I've never seen sucky players take over a series like that. So Caps fans can go ahead and say Crosby sucks all they want - it helps take away the sting they feel when examining the shortcomings of their own team.
I just don't get it. Crosby, quite obviously, doesn't suck. I can understand other teams and fans wanting him to suck. I can understand them arguing that Crosby isn't as good as Ovechkin or whoever, fair enough. I can understand them criticizing him for all the crap that they say he does, even though it is really lame. But you can go into at least 3 of the largest arenas on the east coast and the fans will start Crosby sucks chants (often led by arena staff), wear clothing that says it, pee on pictures of him, pass out pacifiers, etc. Has anything like this ever happened in the NHL before? The Caps entire operational directive is Ovechkin is awesome/Crosby sucks...yet the Caps organization itself constantly compares itself to the Penguins and Crosby. The Flyers overpay really old players just at the prospect of having to play Crosby. Yet, according to all of them, Crosby sucks. Do you have any credibility left at all once you have uttered those words?
#141
2009-12-01 14:53
Quoting Battleship:
Believe me, the Caps had better have him re-signed to an extension by July 1, or the offer sheets will begin rolling in at 12:01. A lot of teams would be willing to the price for him.
Not to beat the Columbus horse to death (though I will), but he'd look pretty good setting up Rick Nash.
You'd also have to think he'd be on Bryan Murray's radar now that Spezza appears to have finally finished collapsing.
The only thing that would hold down
Backstrom's salary is the fac that he's a restricted FA, and teams would have to give up big-time draft choices if they pay him the big bucks.
Believe me, the Caps had better have him re-signed to an extension by July 1, or the offer sheets will begin rolling in at 12:01. A lot of teams would be willing to the price for him.
Not to beat the Columbus horse to death (though I will), but he'd look pretty good setting up Rick Nash.
You'd also have to think he'd be on Bryan Murray's radar now that Spezza appears to have finally finished collapsing.
#142
2009-12-01 14:54
murderpoolblog
I'm gonna take Chris Neil, unless Dany Heatley gets traded to the Caps, then all bets are off.
I'm gonna take Chris Neil, unless Dany Heatley gets traded to the Caps, then all bets are off.
#143
2009-12-01 14:54
@Raybin - I want a second pick. I'm good with Tootoo but I also want to add Colton Orr (more games against an Eastern opponent than Western).
@Battleship - Yes, some teams may be wary of what they'd give up in draft picks by signing Backstrom to an offer sheet. But some GMs may look at it and say "here's a 21-year old playmaker who we won't need to develop in exchange for 3-4 1st round picks who may or may not pan out." Most GMs wouldn't make that trade, but a few will.
@Battleship - Yes, some teams may be wary of what they'd give up in draft picks by signing Backstrom to an offer sheet. But some GMs may look at it and say "here's a 21-year old playmaker who we won't need to develop in exchange for 3-4 1st round picks who may or may not pan out." Most GMs wouldn't make that trade, but a few will.
#144
2009-12-01 14:57
Quoting dying alive:
I love how we're all picking Western conference tough guys.
Actually it might not be a bad gamble...less chances for reprisal from the Caps.
I'm going Sortini even though he's in the West and they won't see each other often. My gut tells me to go Carcillo, but I'm sticking with my first response.
I love how we're all picking Western conference tough guys.
Actually it might not be a bad gamble...less chances for reprisal from the Caps.
#145
2009-12-01 14:59
Quoting Raybin:
I doubled my odds by adding Colton Orr. Motherfucker's crazy.
I love how we're all picking Western conference tough guys.
Actually it might not be a bad gamble...less chances for reprisal from the Caps.
I doubled my odds by adding Colton Orr. Motherfucker's crazy.
#146
2009-12-01 14:59
Quoting Raybin:
I doubled my odds by adding Colton Orr. Motherfucker's crazy.
I love how we're all picking Western conference tough guys.
Actually it might not be a bad gamble...less chances for reprisal from the Caps.
I doubled my odds by adding Colton Orr. Motherfucker's crazy.
#149
2009-12-01 15:03
Quoting Raybin:
I agree. I think the most logical candidate would be the Leafs because a) Burke would love to make a high-profile signing, especially for a young player; and b) He would be the perfect playmaker to put Kessel with. The question is, do they have the picks available to make the offer, or did they give them up in the Kessel deal?
Quoting Battleship:The only thing that would hold down
Backstrom's salary is the fac that he's a restricted FA, and teams would have to give up big-time draft choices if they pay him the big bucks.
As for the murder pool, put me down for Avery. A sociopath like him is the perfect person for the assignment.
Believe me, the Caps had better have him re-signed to an extension by July 1, or the offer sheets will begin rolling in at 12:01. A lot of teams would be willing to the price for him.
Not to beat the Columbus horse to death (though I will), but he'd look pretty good setting up Rick Nash.
You'd also have to think he'd be on Bryan Murray's radar not that Spezza appears to have finally finished collapsing.
I agree. I think the most logical candidate would be the Leafs because a) Burke would love to make a high-profile signing, especially for a young player; and b) He would be the perfect playmaker to put Kessel with. The question is, do they have the picks available to make the offer, or did they give them up in the Kessel deal?
#150
2009-12-01 15:03
I will pick the darkhorse and go with Ovechkin himself.
I predict he takes himself out.
I predict he takes himself out.
#151
2009-12-01 15:03
Let's do it this way: One player from the East and one from the West.
DA has Stortini/Carcillo
PensFan2166 has Orr/Tootoo
Little Artie has Neil/Eager
And to Steve Ott, I will add Steve Downie. Dude needs medicated...he actually attacked a ref in the AHL.
DA has Stortini/Carcillo
PensFan2166 has Orr/Tootoo
Little Artie has Neil/Eager
And to Steve Ott, I will add Steve Downie. Dude needs medicated...he actually attacked a ref in the AHL.
#152
2009-12-01 15:04
Quoting Little Artie:
Now that was funny. I'm sure there are plenty of people who would buy the Ferrari.
unless Dany Heatley gets traded to the Caps, then all bets are off.
Now that was funny. I'm sure there are plenty of people who would buy the Ferrari.
#153
2009-12-01 15:05
Quoting Raybin:
Quoting Battleship:The only thing that would hold down
Backstrom's salary is the fac that he's a restricted FA, and teams would have to give up big-time draft choices if they pay him the big bucks.
Believe me, the Caps had better have him re-signed to an extension by July 1, or the offer sheets will begin rolling in at 12:01. A lot of teams would be willing to the price for him.
Not to beat the Columbus horse to death (though I will), but he'd look pretty good setting up Rick Nash.
You'd also have to think he'd be on Bryan Murray's radar now that Spezza appears to have finally finished collapsing.
#154
2009-12-01 15:05
Quoting Battleship:
I don't think the Leafs would have the cap space for Backstrom though. I'm not positive about it (and I don't want to do the necessary legwork to back up this claim), but I think Toronto's tight on the cap for a couple years.
I agree. I think the most logical candidate would be the Leafs because a) Burke would love to make a high-profile signing, especially for a young player; and b) He would be the perfect playmaker to put Kessel with. The question is, do they have the picks available to make the offer, or did they give them up in the Kessel deal?
I don't think the Leafs would have the cap space for Backstrom though. I'm not positive about it (and I don't want to do the necessary legwork to back up this claim), but I think Toronto's tight on the cap for a couple years.
#155
2009-12-01 15:05
Quoting Raybin:
Eh, I don't think there would be a huge threat of reprisal anyway. Who's going to do their fighting, Semin? I think Matt Bradley is their "enforcer." Any one of Sortini, Ott, Boogard, Tootoo et. al. would turn him into a woman in about two seconds flat. He'd be lucky to get a single shot in before he lost consciousness.
I think the difference in quality of teams between the West and the East is greatly exaggerated, but when it comes to guys who will punch the face off of someone just for shits and giggles, there's no comparison. The East has Laraque (who doesn't actually want to fight) and Godard. Who else? The West has a seemingly endless line of thugs and psychos.
I love how we're all picking Western conference tough guys.
Actually it might not be a bad gamble...less chances for reprisal from the Caps.
Eh, I don't think there would be a huge threat of reprisal anyway. Who's going to do their fighting, Semin? I think Matt Bradley is their "enforcer." Any one of Sortini, Ott, Boogard, Tootoo et. al. would turn him into a woman in about two seconds flat. He'd be lucky to get a single shot in before he lost consciousness.
I think the difference in quality of teams between the West and the East is greatly exaggerated, but when it comes to guys who will punch the face off of someone just for shits and giggles, there's no comparison. The East has Laraque (who doesn't actually want to fight) and Godard. Who else? The West has a seemingly endless line of thugs and psychos.
#156
2009-12-01 15:08
Quoting Battleship:
I don't think they have the picks, but they do have tons of defensemen. If it became clear to the Caps that they couldn't afford to re-sign Backstrom, they could trade his rights for one of them.
Quoting Raybin:Quoting Battleship:The only thing that would hold down
Backstrom's salary is the fac that he's a restricted FA, and teams would have to give up big-time draft choices if they pay him the big bucks.
As for the murder pool, put me down for Avery. A sociopath like him is the perfect person for the assignment.
Believe me, the Caps had better have him re-signed to an extension by July 1, or the offer sheets will begin rolling in at 12:01. A lot of teams would be willing to the price for him.
Not to beat the Columbus horse to death (though I will), but he'd look pretty good setting up Rick Nash.
You'd also have to think he'd be on Bryan Murray's radar not that Spezza appears to have finally finished collapsing.
I agree. I think the most logical candidate would be the Leafs because a) Burke would love to make a high-profile signing, especially for a young player; and b) He would be the perfect playmaker to put Kessel with. The question is, do they have the picks available to make the offer, or did they give them up in the Kessel deal?
I don't think they have the picks, but they do have tons of defensemen. If it became clear to the Caps that they couldn't afford to re-sign Backstrom, they could trade his rights for one of them.
#157
2009-12-01 15:08
Lol i got the south park reference that shit was funny. So much happened last night its hard to say which one was my favorite.
A)Rupp getting a HT and setting a new career high in goals.
B)Ovechkin trying to take off someones leg on purpose getting a game misconduct and hurting himself in the process.
C) Vokoun getting 2-handed in the neck by his own fucking player and falling back into the net.
A)Rupp getting a HT and setting a new career high in goals.
B)Ovechkin trying to take off someones leg on purpose getting a game misconduct and hurting himself in the process.
C) Vokoun getting 2-handed in the neck by his own fucking player and falling back into the net.
#158
2009-12-01 15:12
Quoting Raybin:
I'm going off the board and picking Chris Cooley.
It involves a ball gag, shorty shorts, and a Nationals promotional mini-bat.
and AIDS, of course. Cancer too, if his AIDS develop cancer.
Let's do it this way: One player from the East and one from the West.
I'm going off the board and picking Chris Cooley.
It involves a ball gag, shorty shorts, and a Nationals promotional mini-bat.
and AIDS, of course. Cancer too, if his AIDS develop cancer.
#159
2009-12-01 15:16
This might be a lot of wishful thinking. The only time AO has gotten hurt/gone down has been when he has tried to cheap shot somebody else. Has anybody put him down or gotten a clean hit on him in the NHL? He doesn't forecheck or backcheck, hell he rarely ventures into his own defensive zone. He's not going to fight any of these guys. A lot of his play involves him madly rushing into the zone with the puck and he is often skating faster than anybody else and he is usually one of the biggest guys out there. The idea that the likes of Orr or Carcillo or Tootoo is going to be able to catch Ovechkin could be too hopeful. It is why he has gotten away with his play for as long as he has.
#160
2009-12-01 15:18
@Elmo - Tootoo has the wheels to catch him. And if Jason Chimera can get Ovechkin between the whistles (and the subsequent injury kept him out a couple weeks), any goon in the NHL could get him between the whistles.
[EDIT] And to any Caps fans who may be reading this, I'm in no way advocating anybody try to injure Ovechkin - I don't want you sending the Feds after me. I am however predicting that somebody will play the game with passion and at full speed after the whistle.
[EDIT] And to any Caps fans who may be reading this, I'm in no way advocating anybody try to injure Ovechkin - I don't want you sending the Feds after me. I am however predicting that somebody will play the game with passion and at full speed after the whistle.
#161
2009-12-01 15:19
@Elmo
Richards got him pretty good a few seasons ago. Colby's the kind of guy who could put a pretty good hit on him, but not a career ending hit.
Richards got him pretty good a few seasons ago. Colby's the kind of guy who could put a pretty good hit on him, but not a career ending hit.
#162
2009-12-01 15:20
Looks like OV was faking the injury last night. He was skating at practice today and is listed as day to day with a "sore knee".
I'm sorry but sore knees don't prevent players from skating off the ice. Gary Roberts had a broken leg and still dragged himself up. OV faked it so he would avoid getting killed by Gleason and lessen his suspension. I think a Jon Lovitz photoshop is needed here.
I'm sorry but sore knees don't prevent players from skating off the ice. Gary Roberts had a broken leg and still dragged himself up. OV faked it so he would avoid getting killed by Gleason and lessen his suspension. I think a Jon Lovitz photoshop is needed here.
#163
2009-12-01 15:22
Quoting PensFan2166:
Yeah, I think that's what we're all saying here. Guys like Tootoo have no need to even attempt to make something look innocent or like it's part of play. They'll just grab him between the whistles and ruin his day. Granted he probably doesn't have the annoyance factor for players in the West that he has with players in the East because of the lack of history, but let him hit Brendan Morrow or Nicklas Grossman early in a game against the Stars. As someone said earlier, shit will get real...really fast.
@Elmo - Tootoo has the wheels to catch him. And if Jason Chimera can get Ovechkin between the whistles (and the subsequent injury kept him out a couple weeks), any goon in the NHL could get him between the whistles.
Yeah, I think that's what we're all saying here. Guys like Tootoo have no need to even attempt to make something look innocent or like it's part of play. They'll just grab him between the whistles and ruin his day. Granted he probably doesn't have the annoyance factor for players in the West that he has with players in the East because of the lack of history, but let him hit Brendan Morrow or Nicklas Grossman early in a game against the Stars. As someone said earlier, shit will get real...really fast.
#164
2009-12-01 15:24
Quoting PensFan2166:
I'll talk about the possibility of Ovechkin getting injured. I'll go to jail. I don't care anymore.
[EDIT] And to any Caps fans who may be reading this, I'm in no way advocating anybody try to injure Ovechkin - I don't want you sending the Feds after me. I am however predicting that somebody will play the game with passion and at full speed after the whistle.
I'll talk about the possibility of Ovechkin getting injured. I'll go to jail. I don't care anymore.
#165
2009-12-01 15:26
Quoting Elmo:
I'd love to see someone respond to one of his charges with an elbow. That would be a start IMO.
This might be a lot of wishful thinking. The only time AO has gotten hurt/gone down has been when he has tried to cheap shot somebody else. Has anybody put him down or gotten a clean hit on him in the NHL? He doesn't forecheck or backcheck, hell he rarely ventures into his own defensive zone. He's not going to fight any of these guys. A lot of his play involves him madly rushing into the zone with the puck and he is often skating faster than anybody else and he is usually one of the biggest guys out there. The idea that the likes of Orr or Carcillo or Tootoo is going to be able to catch Ovechkin could be too hopeful. It is why he has gotten away with his play for as long as he has.
I'd love to see someone respond to one of his charges with an elbow. That would be a start IMO.
#166
2009-12-01 15:27
Quoting TL16:
Think about what you just did. You compared Gary Roberts to Alexander Ovechkin. How can you live with yourself?
Looks like OV was faking the injury last night. He was skating at practice today and is listed as day to day with a "sore knee".
I'm sorry but sore knees don't prevent players from skating off the ice. Gary Roberts had a broken leg and still dragged himself up. OV faked it so he would avoid getting killed by Gleason and lessen his suspension. I think a Jon Lovitz photoshop is needed here.
Think about what you just did. You compared Gary Roberts to Alexander Ovechkin. How can you live with yourself?
#167
2009-12-01 15:28
Quoting dying alive:
Full. Of. Win.
I'll talk about the possibility of Ovechkin getting injured. I'll go to jail. I don't care anymore.
Full. Of. Win.
#168
2009-12-01 15:31
Quoting TL16:
The most simple (and innocent looking) way to do it is fall after the hit. But what you do is make sure you fall on his ankle very awkwardly. Or if he also falls, you fall in a way that your stick (while being held in a cross-checking type fashion) just happens to go across his throat. There are many ways players can start addressing this in a manner which appears innocent enough. I just happen to believe either Jordin Tootoo or Colton Orr will be the player who doesn't feel the need to make it look innocent and will fuck him up like a Roethlisberger motorcycle accident.
I'd love to see someone respond to one of his charges with an elbow. That would be a start IMO.
The most simple (and innocent looking) way to do it is fall after the hit. But what you do is make sure you fall on his ankle very awkwardly. Or if he also falls, you fall in a way that your stick (while being held in a cross-checking type fashion) just happens to go across his throat. There are many ways players can start addressing this in a manner which appears innocent enough. I just happen to believe either Jordin Tootoo or Colton Orr will be the player who doesn't feel the need to make it look innocent and will fuck him up like a Roethlisberger motorcycle accident.
#169
2009-12-01 15:31
Quote:
I hope the NHL and caps fans starts to see Ovechkin as a scumbag the way i have for the last 4 years
Ovechkin kneed somebody and hurt himself. We'll get to that eventually
I hope the NHL and caps fans starts to see Ovechkin as a scumbag the way i have for the last 4 years
#170
2009-12-01 15:33
I happened to pull up Rupp's Wiki last night minutes after he scored his third goal and it was already updated to read:
Rupp scored his first career [hat-trick] on November 30 against the [New York Period Rags].
Kudos to whoever got that up there with the quickness.
Rupp scored his first career [hat-trick] on November 30 against the [New York Period Rags].
Kudos to whoever got that up there with the quickness.
#171
2009-12-01 15:39
Quoting TL16:
Sounds like some free candy to me. He could get mad enough. And AO did start to run at him once or twice.
I'd love to see someone respond to one of his charges with an elbow. That would be a start IMO.
Sounds like some free candy to me. He could get mad enough. And AO did start to run at him once or twice.
#172
2009-12-01 15:41
Quoting PensFan2166:
Man, what's Chris Simon up to these days? I can't think of another player who absolutely could not have cared less about other people the way he did.
I just happen to believe either Jordin Tootoo or Colton Orr will be the player who doesn't feel the need to make it look innocent and will fuck him up like a Roethlisberger motorcycle accident.
Man, what's Chris Simon up to these days? I can't think of another player who absolutely could not have cared less about other people the way he did.
#173
2009-12-01 15:43
I wanted to see a Caps fan perspective on this so I headed over to Caps Insider. I saw this.
Quote:
I immediately had a stroke, closed the browser, and backed slowly away from the computer. I will never make that mistake again.
Quote:
Ovechkin's overall play is what separates him from Crosby, Lemieux, Pavel Bure, Jagr, et. al. who merely tried to score without any regard for defense or any other aspect of the game. While I agree he appears 'reckless' at times, that's one of many things that make him the player he is.
I immediately had a stroke, closed the browser, and backed slowly away from the computer. I will never make that mistake again.
#174
2009-12-01 15:45
Quoting Little Artie:
Claude Lemieux is calling to say "fuck you for forgetting about me."
Man, what's Chris Simon up to these days? I can't think of another player who absolutely could not have cared less about other people the way he did.
Claude Lemieux is calling to say "fuck you for forgetting about me."
#175
2009-12-01 15:45
Quoting dying alive:
i definitely just joined you as far as having a stroke. did this joke seriously try to say ovie is better than Buries It?????
I wanted to see a Caps fan perspective on this so I headed over to Caps Insider. I saw this.
Quote:Ovechkin's overall play is what separates him from Crosby, Lemieux, Pavel Bure, Jagr, et. al. who merely tried to score without any regard for defense or any other aspect of the game. While I agree he appears 'reckless' at times, that's one of many things that make him the player he is.
I immediately had a stroke, closed the browser, and backed slowly away from the computer. I will never make that mistake again.
i definitely just joined you as far as having a stroke. did this joke seriously try to say ovie is better than Buries It?????
#176
2009-12-01 15:47
Quoting dying alive:
So that's what it's like to not know hockey and totally jack off all over yourself.
I wanted to see a Caps fan perspective on this so I headed over to Caps Insider. I saw this.
Quote:Ovechkin's overall play is what separates him from Crosby, Lemieux, Pavel Bure, Jagr, et. al. who merely tried to score without any regard for defense or any other aspect of the game. While I agree he appears 'reckless' at times, that's one of many things that make him the player he is.
I immediately had a stroke, closed the browser, and backed slowly away from the computer. I will never make that mistake again.
So that's what it's like to not know hockey and totally jack off all over yourself.
#177
2009-12-01 15:52
Quoting Raybin:
Thanks for taking Downie, jerk. Although they have calmed him down a lot in Tampa ... if Ovechkin pulls a dirty hit on one of his players, he will go ape shit, no doubt in my mind. Chris Neil hit Hedman cleanly and Downie was pissed, immediately dropped the gloves, and was moody after the game in a creepy, protective/stalker kind of way.
Hmmm ... West and East? East would be either Downie or Hartnell. My West prediction is a Canuck, either Kevin Bieksa or Rick Rypien ... neither of them will deal with that kind of stuff and are fiesty.
Let's do it this way: One player from the East and one from the West.
DA has Stortini/Carcillo
PensFan2166 has Orr/Tootoo
Little Artie has Neil/Eager
And to Steve Ott, I will add Steve Downie. Dude needs medicated...he actually attacked a ref in the AHL.
Thanks for taking Downie, jerk. Although they have calmed him down a lot in Tampa ... if Ovechkin pulls a dirty hit on one of his players, he will go ape shit, no doubt in my mind. Chris Neil hit Hedman cleanly and Downie was pissed, immediately dropped the gloves, and was moody after the game in a creepy, protective/stalker kind of way.
Hmmm ... West and East? East would be either Downie or Hartnell. My West prediction is a Canuck, either Kevin Bieksa or Rick Rypien ... neither of them will deal with that kind of stuff and are fiesty.
#178
2009-12-01 15:56
SuspensionBlog: If you get more than one game misconduct in a span of 41 games or less, it is, by rule, an automatic one game suspension. I am 99.5% positive of this.
DeathBlog: I'd like to throw my hat into the ring and say that from the West it is David Koci and from the East, in an ultimate ironic twist, Captain Elbows ruins him, and per the flowchart, gets 5 games max.
DeathBlog: I'd like to throw my hat into the ring and say that from the West it is David Koci and from the East, in an ultimate ironic twist, Captain Elbows ruins him, and per the flowchart, gets 5 games max.
#179
2009-12-01 15:57
Quoting dying alive:
Well...it does explain a lot. Caps fans think that lining up a guy from across the ice while everybody else is busy playing the game is what defense actually is...that makes AO a defensive genius...
I wanted to see a Caps fan perspective on this so I headed over to Caps Insider. I saw this.
Quote:Ovechkin's overall play is what separates him from Crosby, Lemieux, Pavel Bure, Jagr, et. al. who merely tried to score without any regard for defense or any other aspect of the game. While I agree he appears 'reckless' at times, that's one of many things that make him the player he is.
I immediately had a stroke, closed the browser, and backed slowly away from the computer. I will never make that mistake again.
Well...it does explain a lot. Caps fans think that lining up a guy from across the ice while everybody else is busy playing the game is what defense actually is...that makes AO a defensive genius...
#181
2009-12-01 16:03
Obviously Caps fans are correct with this one.
Virtually every non-Caps fan will say it was dirty but it wasn't.
How could you say that it was dirty when it was Gleason's fault for not getting hit straight on.
Anyone that says they'd rather not get hit straight on by a frieght train is lying.
Somone in the league office needs to address this.
Next time, just take the hit Gleason.
Or else you're going to hurt a 60 goal scorer's knee again!
Clearly most of you Rysby's fans are too jealous and blind to realize this.
Under no circumstances should he be suspended or fined.
Pussies.
Virtually every non-Caps fan will say it was dirty but it wasn't.
How could you say that it was dirty when it was Gleason's fault for not getting hit straight on.
Anyone that says they'd rather not get hit straight on by a frieght train is lying.
Somone in the league office needs to address this.
Next time, just take the hit Gleason.
Or else you're going to hurt a 60 goal scorer's knee again!
Clearly most of you Rysby's fans are too jealous and blind to realize this.
Under no circumstances should he be suspended or fined.
Pussies.
#182
2009-12-01 16:03
Quoting dying alive:
First, DA ...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMSzdgz2ZLs
Next infreakingcredi ble ... they must be the necessary "village idiots" of hockey society ...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNBNqUdqm1E
I wanted to see a Caps fan perspective on this so I headed over to Caps Insider. I saw this.
Quote:Ovechkin's overall play is what separates him from Crosby, Lemieux, Pavel Bure, Jagr, et. al. who merely tried to score without any regard for defense or any other aspect of the game. While I agree he appears 'reckless' at times, that's one of many things that make him the player he is.
I immediately had a stroke, closed the browser, and backed slowly away from the computer. I will never make that mistake again.
First, DA ...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMSzdgz2ZLs
Next infreakingcredi ble ... they must be the necessary "village idiots" of hockey society ...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNBNqUdqm1E
#183
2009-12-01 16:04
I'm not even going to try to join in the mockery of the Caps retard that DA posted. I can't compete with that level of genius.
But I just can't quite fathom that this guy seriously put 66 in that list. That guy is exactly what we're talking about when we make fun of all the Caps "fans" who never knew hockey existed before March 2008. Anyone who says that never, ever watched Lemieux in his prime.
But I just can't quite fathom that this guy seriously put 66 in that list. That guy is exactly what we're talking about when we make fun of all the Caps "fans" who never knew hockey existed before March 2008. Anyone who says that never, ever watched Lemieux in his prime.
#184
2009-12-01 16:05
Quoting Raybin:
And Lemieux never had a hat trick since he played so few games in the shootout era.
I'm not even going to try to join in the mockery of the Caps retard that DA posted. I can't compete with that level of genius.
But I just can't quite fathom that this guy seriously put 66 in that list. That guy is exactly what we're talking about when we make fun of all the Caps "fans" who never knew hockey existed before March 2008. Anyone who says that never, ever watched Lemieux in his prime.
And Lemieux never had a hat trick since he played so few games in the shootout era.
#185
2009-12-01 16:17
I'm going to throw my hat in the Ovechkin Murder Pool.
Western Conference -
Sunday, March 28. Caps-Flames. Dion Phaneuf. Write that down.
Eastern Conference -
I'm going back to an old favorite here, especially because he gets to see him more times a year than most other players do.
I'm putting my money behind a Colby Armstrong life-ender.
Trevor Letowski, Jeff Carter and Saku Koivu each give it two thumbs up.
Western Conference -
Sunday, March 28. Caps-Flames. Dion Phaneuf. Write that down.
Eastern Conference -
I'm going back to an old favorite here, especially because he gets to see him more times a year than most other players do.
I'm putting my money behind a Colby Armstrong life-ender.
Trevor Letowski, Jeff Carter and Saku Koivu each give it two thumbs up.
#186
2009-12-01 16:18
Quoting Raybin:
Anyone who says that never saw Lemieux play, period...or at least knows nothing of him beyond the little player with the #66 underneath him on NHL '94.
But I just can't quite fathom that this guy seriously put 66 in that list. That guy is exactly what we're talking about when we make fun of all the Caps "fans" who never knew hockey existed before March 2008. Anyone who says that never, ever watched Lemieux in his prime.
Anyone who says that never saw Lemieux play, period...or at least knows nothing of him beyond the little player with the #66 underneath him on NHL '94.
#187
2009-12-01 16:18
Don't get me wrong, I would love to see AO get what he deserves. Like Raybin, I have had visions of what it would be like if Ovechkin was pulling this crap against Scott Stevens. But I wonder how he has gotten away with it for as long as he has. I think it would take a player with more skill, like a Richards or a Pronger. How does AO survive playing that way against the Flyers?
My vote...some Russian Revenge...Sergei Gonchar. After all, that scumbag tried to end his career and then blamed it on him. One of these days, when nobody is looking, he will pull something. And when they review the play, it won't even look dirty. But Ovechkin won't walk for 3 months after that...
My vote...some Russian Revenge...Sergei Gonchar. After all, that scumbag tried to end his career and then blamed it on him. One of these days, when nobody is looking, he will pull something. And when they review the play, it won't even look dirty. But Ovechkin won't walk for 3 months after that...
#188
2009-12-01 16:21
Im gonna enter the poll with a few sleepers since the nig names are off the board.
East- Zenon Konopka
West- Kevin Bieksa
East- Zenon Konopka
West- Kevin Bieksa
#189
2009-12-01 16:22
Quoting Stoosh:
You are correct. I don't know why I even qualified that. What a mistake.
I think the "in his prime" thing should be applied to Jagr. 1990's Jagr > Ovechkin.
Quoting Raybin:But I just can't quite fathom that this guy seriously put 66 in that list. That guy is exactly what we're talking about when we make fun of all the Caps "fans" who never knew hockey existed before March 2008. Anyone who says that never, ever watched Lemieux in his prime.
Anyone who says that never saw Lemieux play, period...or at least knows nothing of him beyond the little player with the #66 underneath him on NHL '94.
You are correct. I don't know why I even qualified that. What a mistake.
I think the "in his prime" thing should be applied to Jagr. 1990's Jagr > Ovechkin.
#190
2009-12-01 16:23
Quoting Sweet Trav 412:
Im 99.5% positive that it's only for the same offense. So if Ovie was tossed for boarding, he would have to board again. This was a knee, so the auto suspension does not apply here.
SuspensionBlog: If you get more than one game misconduct in a span of 41 games or less, it is, by rule, an automatic one game suspension. I am 99.5% positive of this.
Im 99.5% positive that it's only for the same offense. So if Ovie was tossed for boarding, he would have to board again. This was a knee, so the auto suspension does not apply here.
#191
2009-12-01 16:24
Theres two types of capitals fans:
OV fanboys: Only care about Ovechkin. could give two shits about hockey or the capitals. They identify with his emotional theatrics, his diva-like attitude, and his lack of responsibility. The only stat that matters to them is goals, followed closely by shots. Mostly adolescent boys trying to rebel against their "fascist" mommies and daddies by listening to green day and rocking the red with their sisters tampons.
Capitals fans: the ones who haven't committed suicide after the 90s. The ones who don't bother watching a game 7 between the Caps and Pens because they know what the outcome will be. Deep down they really want to be Penguin fans. They know OV is a worthless, selfish, bum who will never win anything. They wished they had Crosby instead.
I think this guy quoted above is type A.
OV fanboys: Only care about Ovechkin. could give two shits about hockey or the capitals. They identify with his emotional theatrics, his diva-like attitude, and his lack of responsibility. The only stat that matters to them is goals, followed closely by shots. Mostly adolescent boys trying to rebel against their "fascist" mommies and daddies by listening to green day and rocking the red with their sisters tampons.
Capitals fans: the ones who haven't committed suicide after the 90s. The ones who don't bother watching a game 7 between the Caps and Pens because they know what the outcome will be. Deep down they really want to be Penguin fans. They know OV is a worthless, selfish, bum who will never win anything. They wished they had Crosby instead.
I think this guy quoted above is type A.
#192
2009-12-01 16:26
OV is now day-to-day...and he says he could be ready for the caps next game against the Panthers.
Here what I think really happened last night... He knew by the way he hit Gleason that it was a dirty hit and threw himself on the ice and then started acting like his leg got sliced in half just to make things looks less bad than they actually were.
That way, when Collin Campbell calls him he can argue : "Do you seriously think I would have risked a season-ending injury just to hit a guy in the offensive zone 120 feet away from my net... do you really think I would do such thing intentionnaly?!?"
And the sad thing is, the NHL will probably buy that and no suspensions will be handed to him (maybe a small fine) and he gets to play the next game and starts all over again until the next time he does it again (I say in 3-5 games).
Oh well, karma will eventually catch up to him!
Here what I think really happened last night... He knew by the way he hit Gleason that it was a dirty hit and threw himself on the ice and then started acting like his leg got sliced in half just to make things looks less bad than they actually were.
That way, when Collin Campbell calls him he can argue : "Do you seriously think I would have risked a season-ending injury just to hit a guy in the offensive zone 120 feet away from my net... do you really think I would do such thing intentionnaly?!?"
And the sad thing is, the NHL will probably buy that and no suspensions will be handed to him (maybe a small fine) and he gets to play the next game and starts all over again until the next time he does it again (I say in 3-5 games).
Oh well, karma will eventually catch up to him!
#194
2009-12-01 16:31
Quoting Elmo:
Because in the end the Flyers just aren't as big and bad as they think they are (not that it would surprise me though if Richards or Pronger are the ones to do it). If the Capitals played in the West, I'd be willing to bet that somebody on the Hawks would do it. They have a pretty good balance of talent and total doshes, if Ovechkin ran Kane or Toews, there'd be plenty of guys to come calling. If Byfuglien used the Bertuzzi move, he'd probably kill Ovechkin.
Don't get me wrong, I would love to see AO get what he deserves. Like Raybin, I have had visions of what it would be like if Ovechkin was pulling this crap against Scott Stevens. But I wonder how he has gotten away with it for as long as he has. I think it would take a player with more skill, like a Richards or a Pronger. How does AO survive playing that way against the Flyers?
Because in the end the Flyers just aren't as big and bad as they think they are (not that it would surprise me though if Richards or Pronger are the ones to do it). If the Capitals played in the West, I'd be willing to bet that somebody on the Hawks would do it. They have a pretty good balance of talent and total doshes, if Ovechkin ran Kane or Toews, there'd be plenty of guys to come calling. If Byfuglien used the Bertuzzi move, he'd probably kill Ovechkin.
#195
2009-12-01 16:32
Quote:
Bingo.
Quote:
Im 99.5% positive that it's only for the same offense. So if Ovie was tossed for boarding, he would have to board again. This was a knee, so the auto suspension does not apply here.
Bingo.
Quote:
As far possible disciplinary action, it's unclear whether Colin Campbell will hand out a suspension or fine for Ovechkin's knee-on-knee hit. But it appears, based on the rule book, that Ovechkin will avoid an automatic one-game suspension in connection with his hit on Buffalo's Patrick Kaleta last Wednesday because boarding and kneeing fall in different categories.
#196
2009-12-01 16:35
Quoting akus:
Granato's too smart for that; he'll never do anything which could be traced back to him.
We'll never know what Granato's plans are until he has Ovechkin strapped to the table with the laser slowly approaching him.
My vote.
Tony G.
A wicked two handed slash as Ovie skates by the bench.
Granato's too smart for that; he'll never do anything which could be traced back to him.
We'll never know what Granato's plans are until he has Ovechkin strapped to the table with the laser slowly approaching him.
#197
2009-12-01 16:37
The way Tocchet was acting after OV's 50 goal celebration i was sure it was going to be him going Tonya Harding in the parking lot with a baseball bat.
Realistically i say it will be someone in his division. The guys who see him the most and aren't enamored by his presence. The easy pick - Gleason. He was going psycho on the Caps in the 3rd period of the game last night. West i say Bissonnette.. that guy scared me.
Realistically i say it will be someone in his division. The guys who see him the most and aren't enamored by his presence. The easy pick - Gleason. He was going psycho on the Caps in the 3rd period of the game last night. West i say Bissonnette.. that guy scared me.
#198
2009-12-01 16:38
@Pen_City & akus: Thanks for the clarification. That's kinda bullshit, but alas, it is the NHL rule book we are talking about.
#199
2009-12-01 16:44
Quoting Sweet Trav 412:
It is a total bullshit loophole, but yes, when you're talking about the NHL rule book "bullshit loophole" pretty much goes without saying.
I honestly don't believe he's going to get a single thing other than a nominal fine. Maybe Campbell will throw in some posturing and finger wagging, but the NHL has shown no inclination to punish him for his acts so far, nor do they seem to be particularly concerned with perpetuating the idea that a double standard exists depending on how many tickets you sell.
That's kinda bullshit, but alas, it is the NHL rule book we are talking about.
It is a total bullshit loophole, but yes, when you're talking about the NHL rule book "bullshit loophole" pretty much goes without saying.
I honestly don't believe he's going to get a single thing other than a nominal fine. Maybe Campbell will throw in some posturing and finger wagging, but the NHL has shown no inclination to punish him for his acts so far, nor do they seem to be particularly concerned with perpetuating the idea that a double standard exists depending on how many tickets you sell.
#200
2009-12-01 16:45
Quoting PensFan2166:
Somebody needs to teach Yeo to be the Oddjob to Granato's Goldfinger.
@TL16
I thought about Tocchet, and yea, there's a good chance he does it, especially if someone offers him a cut of the winnings.
Quoting akus:My vote.
Tony G.
A wicked two handed slash as Ovie skates by the bench.
Granato's too smart for that; he'll never do anything which could be traced back to him.
We'll never know what Granato's plans are until he has Ovechkin strapped to the table with the laser slowly approaching him.
Somebody needs to teach Yeo to be the Oddjob to Granato's Goldfinger.
@TL16
I thought about Tocchet, and yea, there's a good chance he does it, especially if someone offers him a cut of the winnings.
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