
The Hart Memorial Trophy, for the most valuable player, would be named instead after Gordie Howe. The Art Ross, for scoring, would be named after Wayne Gretzky, the most prolific scorer in league history.
The Norris trophy, given to the NHL's top defenceman, would be named after Bobby Orr, who revolutionized the position. The Calder trophy, for rookie of the year, would be named after Pittsburgh great Mario Lemieux.
"It's nothing more than an idea being kicked around at this point in time," said NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly.
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Anyone think they should rename The Stanley Cup the "shinysilverthin gatthebottomofm ariospool"?
Me either.
are they gonna rename the cup too? make that more "relevant"?




Yeah...the Stanley Cup needs a corporate sponsor. Maybe the Amp Energy Cup or the Stanley Cup presented by Papajohns.com





yeah changing the names makes the trophy's more 'relevant' but what the heck is the point of that?? who cares if people outside the sport dont know who vezina was? or richard? does it really matter?

As awesome as "The Sir Buries It Trophy for the Most Valuable Rookie" sounds, I think they should keep the old names. If they "update" the names now, they'll have to update them again another 30, 40 whatever years from now to make them more "relevant" to that generation. So, it's kind of a cool idea, but no.

Yeah...the Stanley Cup needs a corporate sponsor. Maybe the Amp Energy Cup or the Stanley Cup presented by Papajohns.com





The Charlie Trophy will be awarded to the most homosexual team in the NHL. Somewhat unfair, however, since the Ottawa Senators would win every year.


Trophies like the Hart are legendary not because of who it's named after, but because of the company you keep when you win it.



a police officer was shot in penn hills this evening, my hometown. thoughts and prayers.

This is what happens when you let manatees pushing around balls with words on them come up with your ideas.

Quoting revoWOOOtion:a police officer was shot in penn hills this evening, my hometown. thoughts and prayers.
He's a cop... That's what they sign up for. Most of them think it's a free ride...

Quoting TheFandangler:Quoting revoWOOOtion:a police officer was shot in penn hills this evening, my hometown. thoughts and prayers.
He's a cop... That's what they sign up for. Most of them think it's a free ride...
Amen

Quoting Birdman27:Quoting TheFandangler:Quoting revoWOOOtion:a police officer was shot in penn hills this evening, my hometown. thoughts and prayers.
He's a cop... That's what they sign up for. Most of them think it's a free ride...
Amen
So, what..... It doesn't merit a period of mourning then? I suppose we shouldn't mourn for soldiers who die in battle--that's what they sign up for.

Not on here chief. This is a hockey blog. I'm sure Sarah Palin has a blog, follow that one.

Quoting TheFandangler:Quoting revoWOOOtion:a police officer was shot in penn hills this evening, my hometown. thoughts and prayers.
He's a cop... That's what they sign up for. Most of them think it's a free ride...
Amen


No shit, chief. If you want things to be kept hockey-specific that's fine, no need to go internet hard-ass just because you disagree with the philosophy behind the content being brought up.
Why should I care if someone brings up something non-hockey in cblog? We are a community here after all (or at least, used to be), so we can talk about whatever we want to. Don't need people shutting anyone down who, say, brings up something about the Steelers. Staff made posts about the Steelers in the past, as well as previous fallen Pittsburgh officers, do you have a beef with them? Who cares.
Oh, and I stay out of politics, but do find it hilarious that you think anybody who supports our troops is some sort of half-retarded delusional republican.
Anyone who thinks they need to be renamed to be more relevant needs to turn in their fan ID badge.
You can get it back when you have a full understanding of the history of the game and who made it all possible.


Quoting Birdman27:Quoting TheFandangler:Quoting revoWOOOtion:a police officer was shot in penn hills this evening, my hometown. thoughts and prayers.
He's a cop... That's what they sign up for. Most of them think it's a free ride...
Amen
as a c-blogger with police officers in the family and most importantly common sense and courtesy in my brain, I now give the both of you the invitation to go fuck yourselves. Better yet, go fuck each other for all I care. They might sign up to serve and defend the public, but is it too much to ask for a little bit of respect for the job that they do?
Again, to the both of you (because I can't say it loudly enough) go fuck yourselves.

Awards?
* The Tie Domi Trophy, for the player with the most penalty minutes.

Quoting J.S.:All the " Hockey talk only elitists " are Jokes.God Bless the Police.They and the Military do the jobs MOST people are afraid to do!But didnt the Hart trophy become " The Ovechkin " 3 years ago? It IS after all, the only trophy that matters!Quoting Birdman27:Quoting TheFandangler:Quoting revoWOOOtion:a police officer was shot in penn hills this evening, my hometown. thoughts and prayers.
He's a cop... That's what they sign up for. Most of them think it's a free ride...
Amen
as a c-blogger with police officers in the family and most importantly common sense and courtesy in my brain, I now give the both of you the invitation to go fuck yourselves. Better yet, go fuck each other for all I care. They might sign up to serve and defend the public, but is it too much to ask for a little bit of respect for the job that they do?
Again, to the both of you (because I can't say it loudly enough) go fuck yourselves.
Couldn't agree more with you j.s. and meecrofilm. My father is a city cop. They don't do their job for themselves, but do it to protect the people of this city, and they ask for nothing in return. And when one is killed in the line of duty protecting would could quiet possibly be your ass, you should at least respect it. Even if someone brings it up on a hockey blog, there's no reason to go out of your to tell them this the wrong place to ask for prayers for a fallen officer. It's just wrong.

Quoting J.S.:Awards?
* The Tie Domi Trophy, for the player with the most penalty minutes.
Well I mean, they already give out an award for the player who is the most productive while accruing a small amount of penalty minutes... it'd be kinda funny to see who could be the most productive while getting a lot of penalties.

Couldn't agree more with you j.s. and meecrofilm. My father is a city cop. They don't do their job for themselves, but do it to protect the people of this city, and they ask for nothing in return. And when one is killed in the line of duty protecting would could quiet possibly be your ass, you should at least respect it. Even if someone brings it up on a hockey blog, there's no reason to go out of your to tell them this the wrong place to ask for prayers for a fallen officer. It's just wrong.
How about the Dan Carcillo award given to the biggest dumb ass in the league?


Quoting revoWOOOtion:a police officer was shot in penn hills this evening, my hometown. thoughts and prayers.
He's a cop... That's what they sign up for. Most of them think it's a free ride...


How about the Dan Carcillo award given to the biggest dumb ass in the league?




Quoting igloo71:yeah changing the names makes the trophy's more 'relevant' but what the heck is the point of that?? who cares if people outside the sport dont know who vezina was? or richard? does it really matter?
Vezina is named after an actual goalie.
Richard, also named after a player, is only about 10 years old anyway.
Neither of those will or should be renamed.

yes I know those awards were named after people. but still. It's tradition. I'm a young fan, a freshman in college, but I love the fact that the trophies have that historic prestige to them. If you change the names, I feel like you would almost be changing what the award means. Like I think someone already said, part of winning the award is who has already won it before you.





How about the Dan Carcillo award given to the biggest dumb ass in the league?



Quoting meecrofilm:Quoting Birdman27:Quoting TheFandangler:Quoting revoWOOOtion:a police officer was shot in penn hills this evening, my hometown. thoughts and prayers.
He's a cop... That's what they sign up for. Most of them think it's a free ride...
Amen
So, what..... It doesn't merit a period of mourning then? I suppose we shouldn't mourn for soldiers who die in battle--that's what they sign up for.
Not on here chief. This is a hockey blog. I'm sure Sarah Palin has a blog, follow that one.
Not on here chief. This is a hockey blog. I'm sure Sarah Palin has a blog, follow that one.
i dont think they should change a damn thing but i agree with DA...they need to show more nhl games on networks that people actually watch... i think they should do a deal with espn like they did a few years back...i cant stand watching espn and all they have is a 2 min highlight reel...but lets talk about golf or nascar!!!

Has anyone heard an update on Sid's status for tonight? It makes sense that they'd sit him against the Canes but you never know. I believe I read over at EN that Goligoski will be out tonight.


i think the nhl should do something with espn better then a 2 min highlight reel...

Quoting dying alive:Has anyone heard an update on Sid's status for tonight? It makes sense that they'd sit him against the Canes but you never know. I believe I read over at EN that Goligoski will be out tonight.
Via the Pens website.
Forwards
Talbot-Malkin-Guerin
Dupuis-Letestu-Fedotenko
Cooke-Staal-Kennedy
Rupp-Adams-Godard

Quoting Steelcity83:i think the nhl should do something with espn better then a 2 min highlight reel...
Perhaps, but ESPN would need a TV deal in place with the NHL first. And the reason their isn't a deal in place is because coming out of the lockout, ESPN wasn't about to give the NHL a deal worth even 10% of what they had before the lockout. So until the new Comcast/Versus/NBC media conglomerate gets huge, competes with ESPN, and brings hockey to the forefront of the average sports fan's consciousness, ESPN probably won't budge from their "fuck the NHL" stance.


Quoting Russ Muffin:Quoting dying alive:Has anyone heard an update on Sid's status for tonight? It makes sense that they'd sit him against the Canes but you never know. I believe I read over at EN that Goligoski will be out tonight.
Via the Pens website.
Forwards
Talbot-Malkin-Guerin
Dupuis-Letestu-Fedotenko
Cooke-Staal-Kennedy
Rupp-Adams-Godard
Bummer. Thanks.

About the trophies, adapt or die.
We need to find a way to make it relevant to draw people in (describing it in a way that is meaningful; scoring, mvp, defensive, etc.), if we expect to get more attention to the sport, and more time getting legitimate highlights on sports programs, etc.
They don't do their job for themselves, but do it to protect the people of this city, and they ask for nothing in return.
The Stanley Cup presented by Gold Bond Menthol Medicated Powder
Quoting Birdman27:Quoting meecrofilm:Quoting Birdman27:Quoting TheFandangler:Quoting revoWOOOtion:a police officer was shot in penn hills this evening, my hometown. thoughts and prayers.
He's a cop... That's what they sign up for. Most of them think it's a free ride...
Amen
So, what..... It doesn't merit a period of mourning then? I suppose we shouldn't mourn for soldiers who die in battle--that's what they sign up for.
Not on here chief. This is a hockey blog. I'm sure Sarah Palin has a blog, follow that one.
See, now this pisses me off.
For the 3 years I have been a cblogger nothing pisses me off me than this right here. CBlog members have talked about everything thing on here. We can job Raven[******] joke city, Roethlisberger, the Pittsburgh Pirates. We can have fun with protesters during the G20 summit. Republicans and Democrats and job each other on here during the elections. We can talk about Tiger Woods having 9 mistresses, basically anything "non-hockey related" and it doesn't matter. But just because someone asks for prayer Jokes have to job them.
Shit man I wonder what you would of said if you saw the trucks outside of the mellon during the playoffs last year selling the t-shirts of the 3 fallen cops from Stanton Heights. "Sorry Guys you can't sell these shirts because this is a place of hockey. Why dont you go down to a Sarah Palin Convention."
Quote:Not on here chief. This is a hockey blog. I'm sure Sarah Palin has a blog, follow that one.
What a joke you are Chief. Go read a Linda Cohn hockey blog.


Hockey anyone??
From the Pens site.
10:37 AM:
The Penguins had a full house at their Monday morning skate as every player on the roster participated. Injured players Sidney Crosby (groin), Chris Kunitz (lower body) and Alex Goligoski (lower body) all took the ice.
Crosby's status is currently unknown for tonight's showdown with the Carolina Hurricanes and it is unlikely that either Kunitz or Goligoski will play, since it is their first time back on the ice following injuries.

"I don't hate cops. . .I just like it better when they're not around." Mickey Rourke from "Barfly" I need you to rent this movie now. Huge. Thanks.

Carcillo getting four games???
Seems like the league did the Flyers a favor.
One of the best things that came out of Saturday's loss was that it might be remembered as the night Mike Richards embraced his captaincy. Usually quiet and reserved, Richards took control in the locker room after the game. He had a sit-down with Carcillo and told him he had to play with more discipline. "All I can do is hold people accountable here, and I don't think it's going to be a problem anymore," Richards said of the foolish Carcillo penalties.


This is from a Philly paper.
Quote:One of the best things that came out of Saturday's loss was that it might be remembered as the night Mike Richards embraced his captaincy. Usually quiet and reserved, Richards took control in the locker room after the game. He had a sit-down with Carcillo and told him he had to play with more discipline. "All I can do is hold people accountable here, and I don't think it's going to be a problem anymore," Richards said of the foolish Carcillo penalties.
The more i read that the harder i laugh.


I agree completely with this sentiment. Award it to the player with the highest point-per-game average after hitting a minimum number of points and PIMs.
[EDIT] Except I'd call it the Pat Verbeek Trophy or something because Tie Domi could barely skate let alone play hockey.




anywho... crosby is out again? there goes the faceoff percentage...

sids back tonight penguins.nhl.com/.../...

sids back tonight penguins.nhl.com/.../...

so how does this shape the lines?
cooke-crosby-guerin? just throwing that out there...




I don't think HCDB will break up the good thing he has going with Cooke-Staal-Kennedy unless he absolutely has to.
Listening to NHL Live, i actually gave EJ Hradek an imaginary h5^.
If he was in Philly, he would give Carcillo a note saying, Thanks,but there is the door. He sited the Shhh game and what he did with Bradley.
But as Hradek said, Philly still thinks it is 1975 and they won't do it.


I swear to God all of these lower body injuries going around is just Alyonka with a case of crabs. Please get that taken care of. Your fucking the team over.... literally.





hmmmmmmmm.. I can currently buy 8 tickets together for the Pens game here in DC on March 24th...... Thinking about doing it, although it would hit my credit card hard for right now.
hmmmmm
I almost forgot to pause for a moment of remembrance on the 68th anniversary of the Germans bombing Pearl Harbor.


Quoting Electra_Glide:I almost forgot to pause for a moment of remembrance on the 68th anniversary of the Germans bombing Pearl Harbor.
Who's with me?????

I'm curious as to how changing the name of the awards is going to bring in new fans and/or make the sport more relevant, anyway. Howe, Gretzky, Lemieux...last I checked, none of those guys were still playing. Yeah, it'll please some fans who are already watching the sport, but why is some schmoe who's never seen a hockey game going to care that there's an award named after some dude who played for the Red Wings 30 years ago? In what way is that going to draw people in and make the sport more relevant?
You want to make the sport more relevant, get a decent tv deal on a network that people actually have access to. Learn to market the sport better and to a wider audience. Changing the names of awards isn't going to do a damn thing.

The Flyers didn't hire the best guy out there. What about Eddie Olczyk?

Oh boy I had to share this...
Some idiot at Puck Daddy actually said this in regards to an article by Ryan 'Two Line Pass' Lambert. The topic was the Flyers hiring Laviolette...
Quote:The Flyers didn't hire the best guy out there. What about Eddie Olczyk?
Baaaahahahahaha haha. Funniest damn thing I've read in a while.

I was watching the Habs' 100th Anniversary pregame the other night - talk about Chillsblog - and at one point, the camera cut to a shot of Bettman standing near the ice. There's this ridiculous array of talent on the ice - Lafleur, Beliveau, Roy, Dryden, all of these old Canadiens players. I'm not even a huge Habs fan, and I'm blown away watching this.
They kept the camera on Bettman for probably 10 or 15 seconds, and he just had this blank, empty stare. He looked like he had no idea where he was, why he was there, who all these players were and why everyone was cheering. I really wonder how much he really understands what the history of the game means to its core fanbase.
I'm not saying he needed to fawn all over the event or come out dressed in a Habs jersey. But there's a world of difference when you listen to him talk about the NHL and then listen to Roger Goodell talk about the NFL or David Stern talk about the NBA. It's two completely different things. You can tell which ones were fans of the game before they ascended to their current positions of power, and one of them definitely doesn't seem to be Bettman.

Unfortunately never have heard of this movie. I have IMDB'd it. Defiantly going to put it in my Netflix queue tonight. Mickey Rourke as a Poet who get fucking wasted every night? This movie had better of won an award

Oh boy I had to share this...
Some idiot at Puck Daddy actually said this in regards to an article by Ryan 'Two Line Pass' Lambert. The topic was the Flyers hiring Laviolette...
Quote:The Flyers didn't hire the best guy out there. What about Eddie Olczyk?
Baaaahahahahaha haha. Funniest damn thing I've read in a while.

What's next? Stanley Cup -> Bettman Cup??

What's next? Stanley Cup -> Bettman Cup??

@PensFan2166: Milbury is holding out for a GM job. Hopefully he can take over for Holmgren when he gets canned.

I think it was Al Strachan who I once heard say, "maybe some day another NHL team will want you to trade away all their legit young talent..." Milbury was super-mega-pissed after that.

Quote:I think it was Al Strachan who I once heard say, "maybe some day another NHL team will want you to trade away all their legit young talent..." Milbury was super-mega-pissed after that.
Sweet Jeebus, there MUST be a youtube of THAT...off I go...


Good point, Seth.
community.post-gazette.com/.../...

Quoting Stoosh:I was watching the Habs' 100th Anniversary pregame the other night - talk about Chillsblog - and at one point, the camera cut to a shot of Bettman standing near the ice. There's this ridiculous array of talent on the ice - Lafleur, Beliveau, Roy, Dryden, all of these old Canadiens players. I'm not even a huge Habs fan, and I'm blown away watching this.
They kept the camera on Bettman for probably 10 or 15 seconds, and he just had this blank, empty stare. He looked like he had no idea where he was, why he was there, who all these players were and why everyone was cheering. I really wonder how much he really understands what the history of the game means to its core fanbase.
I'm not saying he needed to fawn all over the event or come out dressed in a Habs jersey. But there's a world of difference when you listen to him talk about the NHL and then listen to Roger Goodell talk about the NFL or David Stern talk about the NBA. It's two completely different things. You can tell which ones were fans of the game before they ascended to their current positions of power, and one of them definitely doesn't seem to be Bettman.
To be honest, at this point I probably would have had the same expression. I'm all for celebrating the past of hockey but my god, how long is this 100th anniversary thing going to go on for? I get that it's supposed to be 2009 or whatever, but they started this at the beginning of last season ffs. OK yeah, it's great, 100 years. Certainly something to be proud of. They undoubtedly have the most storied players of all time, but come off it already.

I thought the same thing when I first heard about it - didn't they do all of this stuff last year?
From what I found out, the 100th Anniversary Celebration was designed to span the length of their 100th year in existence and then culminate on their 100th birthday, which was Friday night (team was founded Dec. 4, 1909). I think you're right...they whole thing lasted more than a year. But hey, this is the Montreal Canadiens - one of the most self-important organizations and fanbases in all of pro sports. Many of them believe the game wouldn't even exist without their franchise.

“With groins, you are always kind of feeling them during the season. I feel good enough to play.”

What's next? Stanley Cup -> Bettman Cup??

To sum up, good for you on your 100th anniversary. I hope you have 100 more. Now get the fuck out of here with it. And by the way, whoever thought it was a good idea to bring back those red, white and blue striped uniforms should be behind bars.

Quoting Stoosh:I thought the same thing when I first heard about it - didn't they do all of this stuff last year?
From what I found out, the 100th Anniversary Celebration was designed to span the length of their 100th year in existence and then culminate on their 100th birthday, which was Friday night (team was founded Dec. 4, 1909). I think you're right...they whole thing lasted more than a year. But hey, this is the Montreal Canadiens - one of the most self-important organizations and fanbases in all of pro sports. Many of them believe the game wouldn't even exist without their franchise.
I think what they fail to understand is that outside of Montreal and other Habs fans in Canada, nobody gives a damn. Or maybe that's not accurate - I think it's wonderful that they've been around 100 years and I have nothing but respect for a great many of the Habs of the past. But at the same time, I'm sick of having the Habs 100th anniversary crammed down my throat and the collective throats of the rest of the NHL. How many special jerseys, special ceremonies, and so on do the rest of us have to be subjected to? How many times do things like trying to vote all of their starters in the starting line-up of the ASG "because it's their 100th anniversary" and then being outraged because others try to vote in the players who actually belong there have to happen before somebody's eyes actually roll completely out of their skull? I mean holy christ, Habs fans are smug and self-important in a normal year, the way they've been puffing their chests for the past six years or however long this anniversary is dragging on is just taking the arrogance to previously unseen highs.
To sum up, good for you on your 100th anniversary. I hope you have 100 more. Now get the fuck out of here with it. And by the way, whoever thought it was a good idea to bring back those red, white and blue striped uniforms should be behind bars.

I'm not sure my brain could take another visit through a PD comment section.

Take, for instance, the ridiculous promotional crap going on seemingly every Saturday night in Toronto, where they've gone era-by-era, basically drudged up every Leafs alum that can still walk, thrown a jersey on him and paraded him out in front of the Air Canada Centre crowd.

Take, for instance, the ridiculous promotional crap going on seemingly every Saturday night in Toronto, where they've gone era-by-era, basically drudged up every Leafs alum that can still walk, thrown a jersey on him and paraded him out in front of the Air Canada Centre crowd. Part of it feels like a half-hearted attempt to do what the Habs are doing, but most of it feels forced. Quite honestly, it's even worse than something the Pirates would do.

At least we can all take solace in knowing this is something the Red Wings will never be able to do.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOO!

Quote:“With groins, you are always kind of feeling them during the season. I feel good enough to play.”
Oh really, Sid?

I actually was afraid my jaw was going to come unhinged. I'd find it on youtube but I am foiled by the firewall.

#141 PensArmy82 2009-12-07 16:34 anybody else see this? www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9kyTxpBlxs

Quote:I actually was afraid my jaw was going to come unhinged. I'd find it on youtube but I am foiled by the firewall.
Only because I have mad love:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYnkzWTjQr4
It's so ghey

Do you guys think anyone in Philly realizes their problem might not be the coaches? Since the Bobby and Paul show started the Flyers ain't done squat.
Quoting twentyonein69:Do you guys think anyone in Philly realizes their problem might not be the coaches? Since the Bobby and Paul show started the Flyers ain't done squat.
...they have no vision. The guys don't care. They pretend to care, but I know they don't care.



Quoting meecrofilm:Quoting J.S.:Awards?
* The Tie Domi Trophy, for the player with the most penalty minutes.
Well I mean, they already give out an award for the player who is the most productive while accruing a small amount of penalty minutes... it'd be kinda funny to see who could be the most productive while getting a lot of penalties.
I agree completely with this sentiment. Award it to the player with the highest point-per-game average after hitting a minimum number of points and PIMs.
[EDIT] Except I'd call it the Pat Verbeek Trophy or something because Tie Domi could barely skate let alone play hockey.