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Sunday, 06 December 2009 11:29 pm
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From the Toronto Star:
The Hart Memorial Trophy, for the most valuable player, would be named instead after Gordie Howe. The Art Ross, for scoring, would be named after Wayne Gretzky, the most prolific scorer in league history.
The Norris trophy, given to the NHL's top defenceman, would be named after Bobby Orr, who revolutionized the position. The Calder trophy, for rookie of the year, would be named after Pittsburgh great Mario Lemieux.
"It's nothing more than an idea being kicked around at this point in time," said NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly.
So who would they rename the Lady Byng after?
Probably not Daniel Carcillo.
He's been suspended for four games.
Should the NHL rename the trophies?
The case for the name changes is that some of the awards were named after owners and executives, rather than players.
People also believe that renaming the trophies after more recent, well-known players would make them more relevant.
Obviously, the opposing side feels that the current names are a part of the league's tradition and should remain the same.
Will the Hart and the Norris go the way of the Patrick Division and the Wales Conference?
Should they?
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#1
2009-12-06 23:41
a police officer was shot in penn hills this evening, my hometown. thoughts and prayers.
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#2
2009-12-06 23:45
If the NHL changes the names of the trophies, fine. But they need to get rid of these bland division and conference names. The old naming was awesome.
#3
2009-12-06 23:50
Anyone think they should rename The Stanley Cup the "shinysilverthin gatthebottomofm ariospool"?
Me either.
Me either.
#5
2009-12-07 00:01
Quoting Whistler:
Quoting kavanaugh29:
Bettman Cup.
Anyone think they should rename The Stanley Cup the "shinysilverthin gatthebottomofm ariospool"?
Me either.
Quoting kavanaugh29:
are they gonna rename the cup too? make that more "relevant"?
Bettman Cup.
#6
2009-12-07 00:01
My thinking is this: most leagues have awards and trophies that either no one knows the names of (quick, name MLB's championship trophy), or have names that are fairly well identifiable (but I guess when they call it the Lombardi Trophy or Naismith Trophy or Heisman Trophy all the time the history of that person will be well known), or have generic names (AL MVP Joe Mauer). Right there, the NHL has most leagues beat in terms of character.
The problem is, this character is kind of old and stodgy sounding. The Lady Byng trophy? The Prince of Wales trophy? While they have a certain mystique that appealed well for decades (and certainly the people played huge roles in the formative years of the NHL), I doubt we'll find many people alive today who understand the relevance of naming the MVP trophy after some guy named Hart. "What, did Bret "The Hitman" Hart play in the NHL?", etc.
Otherwise, it's a small step towards reestablishing the league's relevancy in the continent after a dismal lockout.
The problem is, this character is kind of old and stodgy sounding. The Lady Byng trophy? The Prince of Wales trophy? While they have a certain mystique that appealed well for decades (and certainly the people played huge roles in the formative years of the NHL), I doubt we'll find many people alive today who understand the relevance of naming the MVP trophy after some guy named Hart. "What, did Bret "The Hitman" Hart play in the NHL?", etc.
Otherwise, it's a small step towards reestablishing the league's relevancy in the continent after a dismal lockout.
#7
2009-12-07 00:02
Names of trophies should stay as they are. The names of the divisions and conferences should have never changed. History's what it's all about, kids.
#8
2009-12-07 00:07
Yeah...the Stanley Cup needs a corporate sponsor. Maybe the Amp Energy Cup or the Stanley Cup presented by Papajohns.com
#9
2009-12-07 00:17
They should add some new awards...
The Wayne Gretzky Whining Trophy.
The Dany Heatley Safe Driving Trophy.
The Bobby Clarke Thug Trophy.
The Pierre McGuire Leadership Trophy.
Mike Milbury GM of the Year Award.
The Wayne Gretzky Whining Trophy.
The Dany Heatley Safe Driving Trophy.
The Bobby Clarke Thug Trophy.
The Pierre McGuire Leadership Trophy.
Mike Milbury GM of the Year Award.
#10
2009-12-07 00:19
Quoting guy germaine:
Stanley Steemer Cup?
Morgan Stanley Cup?
Stanley Ipkiss Cup?
Yeah...the Stanley Cup needs a corporate sponsor. Maybe the Amp Energy Cup or the Stanley Cup presented by Papajohns.com
Stanley Steemer Cup?
Morgan Stanley Cup?
Stanley Ipkiss Cup?
#11
2009-12-07 00:19
No. No way. The names of those trophies are mysterious, which adds to the value of hockey being such a classic and timeless sport. Sure all the players named above deserve trophies named after them, but the names now pay homage to the true hockey gods, as they were the pioneers. Hockey has changed from decade to decade more than any other sport. If we take away those names (which are really cool sounding btw) then we take away the last true homages to the fore fathers of this great game.
I would be really irked if they did that.
I would be really irked if they did that.
#12
2009-12-07 00:26
yeah changing the names makes the trophy's more 'relevant' but what the heck is the point of that?? who cares if people outside the sport dont know who vezina was? or richard? does it really matter? i mean it's pretty much the same way for either sport. unless you follow it faithfully, you don't know the names of all the trophies. I think the only trophy names that everyone knows are the championship ones. (except baseball & basketball. do those even have a title?)
#13
2009-12-07 00:27
As awesome as "The Sir Buries It Trophy for the Most Valuable Rookie" sounds, I think they should keep the old names. If they "update" the names now, they'll have to update them again another 30, 40 whatever years from now to make them more "relevant" to that generation. So, it's kind of a cool idea, but no.
#14
2009-12-07 00:28
I'm for the renaming of the awards. They're player awards, it'd be good to name them after some of the greatest players there ever were.
Stanley Cup stays as is, obviously.
Stanley Cup stays as is, obviously.
#15
2009-12-07 00:30
Quoting igloo71:
Vezina is named after an actual goalie.
Richard, also named after a player, is only about 10 years old anyway.
Neither of those will or should be renamed.
yeah changing the names makes the trophy's more 'relevant' but what the heck is the point of that?? who cares if people outside the sport dont know who vezina was? or richard? does it really matter?
Vezina is named after an actual goalie.
Richard, also named after a player, is only about 10 years old anyway.
Neither of those will or should be renamed.
#16
2009-12-07 00:31
Quoting shifty:
I don't think so. This is like a one time thing so they're not named after obscure executives or owners.
As awesome as "The Sir Buries It Trophy for the Most Valuable Rookie" sounds, I think they should keep the old names. If they "update" the names now, they'll have to update them again another 30, 40 whatever years from now to make them more "relevant" to that generation. So, it's kind of a cool idea, but no.
I don't think so. This is like a one time thing so they're not named after obscure executives or owners.
#17
2009-12-07 00:47
Quoting guy germaine:
Yes, because Papa Johns would much rather advertise their website. It would make the Stanley Cup more hip for the kids these days with their walkmens and their 8-tracks and their pogs.
Name those trophies anything you want, perhaps "meaningless" because we all know the only trophy that REALLY matters is the Stanley Cup.
Yeah...the Stanley Cup needs a corporate sponsor. Maybe the Amp Energy Cup or the Stanley Cup presented by Papajohns.com
Yes, because Papa Johns would much rather advertise their website. It would make the Stanley Cup more hip for the kids these days with their walkmens and their 8-tracks and their pogs.
Name those trophies anything you want, perhaps "meaningless" because we all know the only trophy that REALLY matters is the Stanley Cup.
#18
2009-12-07 00:48
This is what happens when you let manatees pushing around balls with words on them come up with your ideas.
#19
2009-12-07 00:52
They should name the award for saving a franchise the Mario Lemieux award. Hell, Gretzky couldn't do it.
Do it.
Do it.
#20
2009-12-07 00:53
The Charlie Trophy will be awarded to the most homosexual team in the NHL. Somewhat unfair, however, since the Ottawa Senators would win every year.
#21
2009-12-07 00:58
The trophies were named after the people who made them possible. As far as I know this is the case for all of those mentioned about. Therefore, that person was honored for giving the gift of the trophy so that people would remember that they were generous to do so. I can understand wanting to keep the name. It doesn't matter that they weren't players. After all, if there wasn't someone willing to be an owner, executive or whatever, no one would be willing to hire a player to play and people wouldn't pay to watch them.
On the other hand, without the players the owners and executives wouldn't have the chance to make money by running the business side of things. However, I realize that there is always talent for the game/any industry available, but that there is not always a person willing to provide a venue for said talent to develop and become a living.
Though, dang, I wouldn't mind hearing a person getting the Mario Lemieux trophy... of course some joke would get it and who could live up to Sir Buries It?
I guess that's another reason to leave them named after non-players (though I realize it's not a good reason.)
Eh, which ever way it goes, people will be unhappy and the NHL will mess it up. Even by doing nothing they will mess it up. They'll probably change the voting system for an intent to vote so that people who vote for a trophy can change their vote at any time by claiming they had intended to vote differently and so a guy can loose his trophy even after he's retired if they feel he didn't live up to the trophy. Jokes.
On the other hand, without the players the owners and executives wouldn't have the chance to make money by running the business side of things. However, I realize that there is always talent for the game/any industry available, but that there is not always a person willing to provide a venue for said talent to develop and become a living.
Though, dang, I wouldn't mind hearing a person getting the Mario Lemieux trophy... of course some joke would get it and who could live up to Sir Buries It?
I guess that's another reason to leave them named after non-players (though I realize it's not a good reason.)
Eh, which ever way it goes, people will be unhappy and the NHL will mess it up. Even by doing nothing they will mess it up. They'll probably change the voting system for an intent to vote so that people who vote for a trophy can change their vote at any time by claiming they had intended to vote differently and so a guy can loose his trophy even after he's retired if they feel he didn't live up to the trophy. Jokes.
#22
2009-12-07 01:05
Quoting eileenover:
Now there's something I can support. We need a Mike Richards trophy too for most college parties crashed each year and a Chris Bourque award for most useless call-up.
And in all honesty, Teemu Selanne had the best rookie campaign in the history of planet earth, so if the Calder would be renamed for anyone it should be him. But I understand the whole "Great 4" vibe they're going with.
And by understand, I mean think it's totally gay and should never, ever be done.
The Charlie Trophy will be awarded to the most homosexual team in the NHL. Somewhat unfair, however, since the Ottawa Senators would win every year.
Now there's something I can support. We need a Mike Richards trophy too for most college parties crashed each year and a Chris Bourque award for most useless call-up.
And in all honesty, Teemu Selanne had the best rookie campaign in the history of planet earth, so if the Calder would be renamed for anyone it should be him. But I understand the whole "Great 4" vibe they're going with.
And by understand, I mean think it's totally gay and should never, ever be done.
#24
2009-12-07 02:10
Anyone who thinks they need to be renamed to be more relevant needs to turn in their fan ID badge.
You can get it back when you have a full understanding of the history of the game and who made it all possible. Sure, some of the trophies are named after donors, but it shouldn't matter. Trophies like the Hart are legendary not because of who it's named after, but because of the company you keep when you win it.
You can get it back when you have a full understanding of the history of the game and who made it all possible. Sure, some of the trophies are named after donors, but it shouldn't matter. Trophies like the Hart are legendary not because of who it's named after, but because of the company you keep when you win it.
#25
2009-12-07 02:31
Quoting wilsmith:
I definitely agree and wish I had used that point too.
Trophies like the Hart are legendary not because of who it's named after, but because of the company you keep when you win it.
I definitely agree and wish I had used that point too.
#26
2009-12-07 02:57
a name is just a name it's what the trophy means that's important. having said that, you can't rename a trophy that is named after the guy who donated it.
#27
2009-12-07 02:57
a name is just a name it's what the trophy means that's important. having said that, you can't rename a trophy that is named after the guy who donated it.
#28
2009-12-07 03:04
Quoting revoWOOOtion:
He's a cop... That's what they sign up for. Most of them think it's a free ride...
a police officer was shot in penn hills this evening, my hometown. thoughts and prayers.
He's a cop... That's what they sign up for. Most of them think it's a free ride...
#29
2009-12-07 03:19
Quoting Little Artie:
Awesome. Nice South Park reference.
Anyway, I'm for it. To me at least, it makes sense to name the awards after people who displayed what the award is for, not just someone who threw some money down.
This is what happens when you let manatees pushing around balls with words on them come up with your ideas.
Awesome. Nice South Park reference.
Anyway, I'm for it. To me at least, it makes sense to name the awards after people who displayed what the award is for, not just someone who threw some money down.
#30
2009-12-07 03:22
Quoting TheFandangler:
Amen
Quoting revoWOOOtion:a police officer was shot in penn hills this evening, my hometown. thoughts and prayers.
He's a cop... That's what they sign up for. Most of them think it's a free ride...
Amen
#31
2009-12-07 04:37
Quoting Birdman27:
So, what..... It doesn't merit a period of mourning then? I suppose we shouldn't mourn for soldiers who die in battle--that's what they sign up for.
Quoting TheFandangler:Quoting revoWOOOtion:a police officer was shot in penn hills this evening, my hometown. thoughts and prayers.
He's a cop... That's what they sign up for. Most of them think it's a free ride...
Amen
So, what..... It doesn't merit a period of mourning then? I suppose we shouldn't mourn for soldiers who die in battle--that's what they sign up for.
#32
2009-12-07 04:50
Quoting meecrofilm:
Not on here chief. This is a hockey blog. I'm sure Sarah Palin has a blog, follow that one.
Quoting Birdman27:Quoting TheFandangler:Quoting revoWOOOtion:a police officer was shot in penn hills this evening, my hometown. thoughts and prayers.
He's a cop... That's what they sign up for. Most of them think it's a free ride...
Amen
So, what..... It doesn't merit a period of mourning then? I suppose we shouldn't mourn for soldiers who die in battle--that's what they sign up for.
Not on here chief. This is a hockey blog. I'm sure Sarah Palin has a blog, follow that one.
#33
2009-12-07 05:09
Quoting Birdman27:
No shit, chief. If you want things to be kept hockey-specific that's fine, no need to go internet hard-ass just because you disagree with the philosophy behind the content being brought up.
Why should I care if someone brings up something non-hockey in cblog? We are a community here after all (or at least, used to be), so we can talk about whatever we want to. Don't need people shutting anyone down who, say, brings up something about the Steelers. Staff made posts about the Steelers in the past, as well as previous fallen Pittsburgh officers, do you have a beef with them? Who cares.
Oh, and I stay out of politics, but do find it hilarious that you think anybody who supports our troops is some sort of half-retarded delusional republican.
Not on here chief. This is a hockey blog. I'm sure Sarah Palin has a blog, follow that one.
No shit, chief. If you want things to be kept hockey-specific that's fine, no need to go internet hard-ass just because you disagree with the philosophy behind the content being brought up.
Why should I care if someone brings up something non-hockey in cblog? We are a community here after all (or at least, used to be), so we can talk about whatever we want to. Don't need people shutting anyone down who, say, brings up something about the Steelers. Staff made posts about the Steelers in the past, as well as previous fallen Pittsburgh officers, do you have a beef with them? Who cares.
Oh, and I stay out of politics, but do find it hilarious that you think anybody who supports our troops is some sort of half-retarded delusional republican.
#34
2009-12-07 07:36
Quoting Birdman27:
as a c-blogger with police officers in the family and most importantly common sense and courtesy in my brain, I now give the both of you the invitation to go fuck yourselves. Better yet, go fuck each other for all I care. They might sign up to serve and defend the public, but is it too much to ask for a little bit of respect for the job that they do?
Again, to the both of you (because I can't say it loudly enough) go fuck yourselves.
Quoting TheFandangler:Quoting revoWOOOtion:a police officer was shot in penn hills this evening, my hometown. thoughts and prayers.
He's a cop... That's what they sign up for. Most of them think it's a free ride...
Amen
as a c-blogger with police officers in the family and most importantly common sense and courtesy in my brain, I now give the both of you the invitation to go fuck yourselves. Better yet, go fuck each other for all I care. They might sign up to serve and defend the public, but is it too much to ask for a little bit of respect for the job that they do?
Again, to the both of you (because I can't say it loudly enough) go fuck yourselves.
#35
2009-12-07 07:42
Awards?
* The Tie Domi Trophy, for the player with the most penalty minutes.
* The Mike Richards Leadership Trophy, no explanation needed.
* The Bob Probert Trophy, for any player busted with drugs during the season. Most recent winner: Sean Hill?
* The William (Billy) Tibbetts Trophy, awarded to any player who causes the most trouble on and off the ice. Kind of like the anti-King Clancy Trophy.
* The Tie Domi Trophy, for the player with the most penalty minutes.
* The Mike Richards Leadership Trophy, no explanation needed.
* The Bob Probert Trophy, for any player busted with drugs during the season. Most recent winner: Sean Hill?
* The William (Billy) Tibbetts Trophy, awarded to any player who causes the most trouble on and off the ice. Kind of like the anti-King Clancy Trophy.
#36
2009-12-07 07:44
Quoting meecrofilm:
::commits::
No shit, chief. If you want things to be kept hockey-specific that's fine, no need to go internet hard-ass just because you disagree with the philosophy behind the content being brought up.
Why should I care if someone brings up something non-hockey in cblog? We are a community here after all (or at least, used to be), so we can talk about whatever we want to. Don't need people shutting anyone down who, say, brings up something about the Steelers. Staff made posts about the Steelers in the past, as well as previous fallen Pittsburgh officers, do you have a beef with them? Who cares.
Oh, and I stay out of politics, but do find it hilarious that you think anybody who supports our troops is some sort of half-retarded delusional republican.
::commits::
#37
2009-12-07 07:49
Quoting wilsmith:
Anyone who thinks they need to be renamed to be more relevant needs to turn in their fan ID badge.
You can get it back when you have a full understanding of the history of the game and who made it all possible.
#38
2009-12-07 07:57
Quoting J.S.:
Couldn't agree more with you j.s. and meecrofilm. My father is a city cop. They don't do their job for themselves, but do it to protect the people of this city, and they ask for nothing in return. And when one is killed in the line of duty protecting would could quiet possibly be your ass, you should at least respect it. Even if someone brings it up on a hockey blog, there's no reason to go out of your to tell them this the wrong place to ask for prayers for a fallen officer. It's just wrong.
Quoting Birdman27:Quoting TheFandangler:Quoting revoWOOOtion:a police officer was shot in penn hills this evening, my hometown. thoughts and prayers.
He's a cop... That's what they sign up for. Most of them think it's a free ride...
Amen
as a c-blogger with police officers in the family and most importantly common sense and courtesy in my brain, I now give the both of you the invitation to go fuck yourselves. Better yet, go fuck each other for all I care. They might sign up to serve and defend the public, but is it too much to ask for a little bit of respect for the job that they do?
Again, to the both of you (because I can't say it loudly enough) go fuck yourselves.
Couldn't agree more with you j.s. and meecrofilm. My father is a city cop. They don't do their job for themselves, but do it to protect the people of this city, and they ask for nothing in return. And when one is killed in the line of duty protecting would could quiet possibly be your ass, you should at least respect it. Even if someone brings it up on a hockey blog, there's no reason to go out of your to tell them this the wrong place to ask for prayers for a fallen officer. It's just wrong.
#39
2009-12-07 08:08
Quoting J.S.:
Well I mean, they already give out an award for the player who is the most productive while accruing a small amount of penalty minutes... it'd be kinda funny to see who could be the most productive while getting a lot of penalties.
Awards?
* The Tie Domi Trophy, for the player with the most penalty minutes.
Well I mean, they already give out an award for the player who is the most productive while accruing a small amount of penalty minutes... it'd be kinda funny to see who could be the most productive while getting a lot of penalties.
#40
2009-12-07 08:38
Quoting steelcity212:
Quoting J.S.:All the " Hockey talk only elitists " are Jokes.God Bless the Police.They and the Military do the jobs MOST people are afraid to do!But didnt the Hart trophy become " The Ovechkin " 3 years ago? It IS after all, the only trophy that matters!Quoting Birdman27:Quoting TheFandangler:Quoting revoWOOOtion:a police officer was shot in penn hills this evening, my hometown. thoughts and prayers.
He's a cop... That's what they sign up for. Most of them think it's a free ride...
Amen
as a c-blogger with police officers in the family and most importantly common sense and courtesy in my brain, I now give the both of you the invitation to go fuck yourselves. Better yet, go fuck each other for all I care. They might sign up to serve and defend the public, but is it too much to ask for a little bit of respect for the job that they do?
Again, to the both of you (because I can't say it loudly enough) go fuck yourselves.
Couldn't agree more with you j.s. and meecrofilm. My father is a city cop. They don't do their job for themselves, but do it to protect the people of this city, and they ask for nothing in return. And when one is killed in the line of duty protecting would could quiet possibly be your ass, you should at least respect it. Even if someone brings it up on a hockey blog, there's no reason to go out of your to tell them this the wrong place to ask for prayers for a fallen officer. It's just wrong.
#41
2009-12-07 08:41
Quoting meecrofilm:
I agree completely with this sentiment. Award it to the player with the highest point-per-game average after hitting a minimum number of points and PIMs.
[EDIT] Except I'd call it the Pat Verbeek Trophy or something because Tie Domi could barely skate let alone play hockey.
Quoting J.S.:Awards?
* The Tie Domi Trophy, for the player with the most penalty minutes.
Well I mean, they already give out an award for the player who is the most productive while accruing a small amount of penalty minutes... it'd be kinda funny to see who could be the most productive while getting a lot of penalties.
I agree completely with this sentiment. Award it to the player with the highest point-per-game average after hitting a minimum number of points and PIMs.
[EDIT] Except I'd call it the Pat Verbeek Trophy or something because Tie Domi could barely skate let alone play hockey.
#43
2009-12-07 08:45
Quoting steelcity212:
In the spirit of jumping on the bandwagon, I agree with this. If we can talk about WWF/WWE wrestling, Charlie's gayest fantasies, the Steelers, the *gasp* Pirates, and whatever all the fuck else we want, who cares if somebody wants to pay respects to a fallen officer? If Staff has a problem with it, let Staff set the guidelines.
And just because an officer does "sign up" to serve and protect, it doesn't mean they "sign up" to be gunned down in the line of duty, leaving a number of family and friends who survive them. I'm just glad their are people who are willing to do that job so that I don't have to - and some of you should be glad as well because it gives you all the free time in the world to be jokes and internet tough guys.
/endofmyrantblog
Couldn't agree more with you j.s. and meecrofilm. My father is a city cop. They don't do their job for themselves, but do it to protect the people of this city, and they ask for nothing in return. And when one is killed in the line of duty protecting would could quiet possibly be your ass, you should at least respect it. Even if someone brings it up on a hockey blog, there's no reason to go out of your to tell them this the wrong place to ask for prayers for a fallen officer. It's just wrong.
In the spirit of jumping on the bandwagon, I agree with this. If we can talk about WWF/WWE wrestling, Charlie's gayest fantasies, the Steelers, the *gasp* Pirates, and whatever all the fuck else we want, who cares if somebody wants to pay respects to a fallen officer? If Staff has a problem with it, let Staff set the guidelines.
And just because an officer does "sign up" to serve and protect, it doesn't mean they "sign up" to be gunned down in the line of duty, leaving a number of family and friends who survive them. I'm just glad their are people who are willing to do that job so that I don't have to - and some of you should be glad as well because it gives you all the free time in the world to be jokes and internet tough guys.
/endofmyrantblog
#45
2009-12-07 09:36
Quoting Pen_City:
the top of said trophy would look like this
How about the Dan Carcillo award given to the biggest dumb ass in the league?
the top of said trophy would look like this
#46
2009-12-07 09:38
Whoa...
show some class FD. That's a pretty bullshit thing to say.
"...Most of them??" - Did you take some sort of survey? What kind of blatant, ignorant, uneducated generalization is that.
To make it hockey relevant for some of you, class is what separates us from Flyers and Caps fans :)
Quoting TheFandangler:
show some class FD. That's a pretty bullshit thing to say.
"...Most of them??" - Did you take some sort of survey? What kind of blatant, ignorant, uneducated generalization is that.
To make it hockey relevant for some of you, class is what separates us from Flyers and Caps fans :)
Quoting TheFandangler:
Quoting revoWOOOtion:a police officer was shot in penn hills this evening, my hometown. thoughts and prayers.
He's a cop... That's what they sign up for. Most of them think it's a free ride...
#47
2009-12-07 09:46
About the trophies, adapt or die.
We need to find a way to make it relevant to draw people in (describing it in a way that is meaningful; scoring, mvp, defensive, etc.), if we expect to get more attention to the sport, and more time getting legitimate highlights on sports programs, etc.
Yeah, we can stay isolated if you want, but we'll become irrelevant as people die off.
I admire the respect for tradition, so why not find a way to use both?
We need to find a way to make it relevant to draw people in (describing it in a way that is meaningful; scoring, mvp, defensive, etc.), if we expect to get more attention to the sport, and more time getting legitimate highlights on sports programs, etc.
Yeah, we can stay isolated if you want, but we'll become irrelevant as people die off.
I admire the respect for tradition, so why not find a way to use both?
#48
2009-12-07 09:49
Quoting Pen_City:
Perhaps a Matt Bradley Trophy for the NHL player who bleeds from the face the easiest?
How about the Dan Carcillo award given to the biggest dumb ass in the league?
Perhaps a Matt Bradley Trophy for the NHL player who bleeds from the face the easiest?
#49
2009-12-07 09:56
I fully understand the traditionalist point of view. I wouldn't want a complete name change on the awards but a compromise might work.
Give certain awards a hyphenated name, such as;
Hart-Howe for MVP
Norris-Orr for top D-man
Ross-Gretzky for leading scorer
Calder-Lemieux for ROY
I would not, under any circumstances, be happy with any change to the Vezina.
Give certain awards a hyphenated name, such as;
Hart-Howe for MVP
Norris-Orr for top D-man
Ross-Gretzky for leading scorer
Calder-Lemieux for ROY
I would not, under any circumstances, be happy with any change to the Vezina.
#50
2009-12-07 09:59
How about The Hossa Award given to the least valuable player on the Stanley Cup runner-up.
The award could come with a chicken bone for the awarded player to choke on.
The award could come with a chicken bone for the awarded player to choke on.
#51
2009-12-07 10:09
I'm not in favor of renaming the awards, but I'm not passionately opposed to it either. However, if there is one trophy which should be renamed, it would be the Lady Byng Trophy. That name causes the winner to be mocked by many people - both inside the NHL and out.
#52
2009-12-07 10:13
Quoting PittHockey:
yes I know those awards were named after people. but still. It's tradition. I'm a young fan, a freshman in college, but I love the fact that the trophies have that historic prestige to them. If you change the names, I feel like you would almost be changing what the award means. Like I think someone already said, part of winning the award is who has already won it before you.
Quoting igloo71:yeah changing the names makes the trophy's more 'relevant' but what the heck is the point of that?? who cares if people outside the sport dont know who vezina was? or richard? does it really matter?
Vezina is named after an actual goalie.
Richard, also named after a player, is only about 10 years old anyway.
Neither of those will or should be renamed.
yes I know those awards were named after people. but still. It's tradition. I'm a young fan, a freshman in college, but I love the fact that the trophies have that historic prestige to them. If you change the names, I feel like you would almost be changing what the award means. Like I think someone already said, part of winning the award is who has already won it before you.
#53
2009-12-07 10:24
Quoting igloo71:
As I said before, I'm not in favor of changing the names but I'm also not passionately opposed to it. However, the NHL has done enough in the last 10-12 years to punch hockey purists/traditionalists in the throat that I would honestly be surprised if the NHL doesn't change the names. Gary Bettman has overseen many changes in an attempt to make the game more "exciting" and lure more casual fans. At this point, we should be happy the NHL isn't looking to change the Norris Trophy to the Mike Green Best Backforward Trophy and the Selke Trophy to the Alex Ovechkin One-Time Backchecker Trophy. Shit, if not for the fact that the NHL really doesn't have control over the Stanley Cup (all decisions are made by the trustees of the Cup who are not NHL employees), they probably would've changed that name too.
yes I know those awards were named after people. but still. It's tradition. I'm a young fan, a freshman in college, but I love the fact that the trophies have that historic prestige to them. If you change the names, I feel like you would almost be changing what the award means. Like I think someone already said, part of winning the award is who has already won it before you.
As I said before, I'm not in favor of changing the names but I'm also not passionately opposed to it. However, the NHL has done enough in the last 10-12 years to punch hockey purists/traditionalists in the throat that I would honestly be surprised if the NHL doesn't change the names. Gary Bettman has overseen many changes in an attempt to make the game more "exciting" and lure more casual fans. At this point, we should be happy the NHL isn't looking to change the Norris Trophy to the Mike Green Best Backforward Trophy and the Selke Trophy to the Alex Ovechkin One-Time Backchecker Trophy. Shit, if not for the fact that the NHL really doesn't have control over the Stanley Cup (all decisions are made by the trustees of the Cup who are not NHL employees), they probably would've changed that name too.
#54
2009-12-07 10:40
I'm curious as to how changing the name of the awards is going to bring in new fans and/or make the sport more relevant, anyway. Howe, Gretzky, Lemieux...last I checked, none of those guys were still playing. Yeah, it'll please some fans who are already watching the sport, but why is some schmoe who's never seen a hockey game going to care that there's an award named after some dude who played for the Red Wings 30 years ago? In what way is that going to draw people in and make the sport more relevant?
You want to make the sport more relevant, get a decent tv deal on a network that people actually have access to. Learn to market the sport better and to a wider audience. Changing the names of awards isn't going to do a damn thing.
You want to make the sport more relevant, get a decent tv deal on a network that people actually have access to. Learn to market the sport better and to a wider audience. Changing the names of awards isn't going to do a damn thing.
#56
2009-12-07 10:46
@DA - I agree with what you're saying, but I still think Gary Bettman and other NHL FO folks are thinking (rather misguidedly) that renaming the trophies will be a brilliant way to draw more/new fans.
#57
2009-12-07 10:55
How about the Scott Hartnell Award for best bite, the Chris Pronger Award for biggest goon, of the Alex Ovechkin Award for most attempts to injure another player but injuring yourself like a complete dumbass.
#59
2009-12-07 11:18
Case in point for me, No one and I mean NO ONE in my family watches the NHL other than my wife and son (they have no choice they live with me). However my dad and some of my in laws know very well the names of Lemieux,Gretzky and Howe. Those names were huge in the not so distant past. Most of us here in Cblog know the old names and why but the vast majority of people out in the world no NOTHING about the NHL. Re naming things would help new fans of the game that know a little. However having said all of this...I say leave it alone! Hockey is my favorite sport because it's always behind the curve with the rest of the world. I like the fact that it's the best game on earth that no one pays attention to.
I say keep it real and keep it old!
I say keep it real and keep it old!
#60
2009-12-07 11:20
Quoting Pen_City:
This is by far the best thing I'm gonna read all day.FTW!
How about the Dan Carcillo award given to the biggest dumb ass in the league?
This is by far the best thing I'm gonna read all day.FTW!
#61
2009-12-07 11:21
i dont think they should change a damn thing but i agree with DA...they need to show more nhl games on networks that people actually watch... i think they should do a deal with espn like they did a few years back...i cant stand watching espn and all they have is a 2 min highlight reel...but lets talk about golf or nascar!!!
#62
2009-12-07 11:21
Has anyone heard an update on Sid's status for tonight? It makes sense that they'd sit him against the Canes but you never know. I believe I read over at EN that Goligoski will be out tonight.
#63
2009-12-07 11:26
Quoting Birdman27:
See, now this pisses me off.
For the 3 years I have been a cblogger nothing pisses me off me than this right here. CBlog members have talked about everything thing on here. We can job Raven[******] joke city, Roethlisberger, the Pittsburgh Pirates. We can have fun with protesters during the G20 summit. Republicans and Democrats and job each other on here during the elections. We can talk about Tiger Woods having 9 mistresses, basically anything "non-hockey related" and it doesn't matter. But just because someone asks for prayer Jokes have to job them.
Shit man I wonder what you would of said if you saw the trucks outside of the mellon during the playoffs last year selling the t-shirts of the 3 fallen cops from Stanton Heights. "Sorry Guys you can't sell these shirts because this is a place of hockey. Why dont you go down to a Sarah Palin Convention."
Quote:
What a joke you are Chief. Go read a Linda Cohn hockey blog.
Quoting meecrofilm:Quoting Birdman27:Quoting TheFandangler:Quoting revoWOOOtion:a police officer was shot in penn hills this evening, my hometown. thoughts and prayers.
He's a cop... That's what they sign up for. Most of them think it's a free ride...
Amen
So, what..... It doesn't merit a period of mourning then? I suppose we shouldn't mourn for soldiers who die in battle--that's what they sign up for.
Not on here chief. This is a hockey blog. I'm sure Sarah Palin has a blog, follow that one.
See, now this pisses me off.
For the 3 years I have been a cblogger nothing pisses me off me than this right here. CBlog members have talked about everything thing on here. We can job Raven[******] joke city, Roethlisberger, the Pittsburgh Pirates. We can have fun with protesters during the G20 summit. Republicans and Democrats and job each other on here during the elections. We can talk about Tiger Woods having 9 mistresses, basically anything "non-hockey related" and it doesn't matter. But just because someone asks for prayer Jokes have to job them.
Shit man I wonder what you would of said if you saw the trucks outside of the mellon during the playoffs last year selling the t-shirts of the 3 fallen cops from Stanton Heights. "Sorry Guys you can't sell these shirts because this is a place of hockey. Why dont you go down to a Sarah Palin Convention."
Quote:
Not on here chief. This is a hockey blog. I'm sure Sarah Palin has a blog, follow that one.
What a joke you are Chief. Go read a Linda Cohn hockey blog.
#64
2009-12-07 11:28
Quoting Steelcity83:
ESPN is firmly entrenched, showing college hoops from Thanksgiving-on, so hockey will always suck hind-teet with them
with VERSUS' lame programming, I'm surprised they haven't stepped-up and shown hockey 4 or 5 nights a week, picking up various feeds
i dont think they should change a damn thing but i agree with DA...they need to show more nhl games on networks that people actually watch... i think they should do a deal with espn like they did a few years back...i cant stand watching espn and all they have is a 2 min highlight reel...but lets talk about golf or nascar!!!
ESPN is firmly entrenched, showing college hoops from Thanksgiving-on, so hockey will always suck hind-teet with them
with VERSUS' lame programming, I'm surprised they haven't stepped-up and shown hockey 4 or 5 nights a week, picking up various feeds
#65
2009-12-07 11:30
Quoting dying alive:
Via the Pens website.
Forwards
Talbot-Malkin-Guerin
Dupuis-Letestu-Fedotenko
Cooke-Staal-Kennedy
Rupp-Adams-Godard
BTW after seeing Letestu in Saturdays game. I already have a man crush on him.
So much better than Chris (I was only in the NHL because my dad is Ray Bourque) Bourque.
Has anyone heard an update on Sid's status for tonight? It makes sense that they'd sit him against the Canes but you never know. I believe I read over at EN that Goligoski will be out tonight.
Via the Pens website.
Forwards
Talbot-Malkin-Guerin
Dupuis-Letestu-Fedotenko
Cooke-Staal-Kennedy
Rupp-Adams-Godard
BTW after seeing Letestu in Saturdays game. I already have a man crush on him.
So much better than Chris (I was only in the NHL because my dad is Ray Bourque) Bourque.
#66
2009-12-07 11:31
i think the nhl should do something with espn better then a 2 min highlight reel...
#67
2009-12-07 11:37
Quoting Steelcity83:
Perhaps, but ESPN would need a TV deal in place with the NHL first. And the reason their isn't a deal in place is because coming out of the lockout, ESPN wasn't about to give the NHL a deal worth even 10% of what they had before the lockout. So until the new Comcast/Versus/NBC media conglomerate gets huge, competes with ESPN, and brings hockey to the forefront of the average sports fan's consciousness, ESPN probably won't budge from their "fuck the NHL" stance.
i think the nhl should do something with espn better then a 2 min highlight reel...
Perhaps, but ESPN would need a TV deal in place with the NHL first. And the reason their isn't a deal in place is because coming out of the lockout, ESPN wasn't about to give the NHL a deal worth even 10% of what they had before the lockout. So until the new Comcast/Versus/NBC media conglomerate gets huge, competes with ESPN, and brings hockey to the forefront of the average sports fan's consciousness, ESPN probably won't budge from their "fuck the NHL" stance.
#68
2009-12-07 11:39
Quoting Russ Muffin:
Bummer. Thanks.
Quoting dying alive:Has anyone heard an update on Sid's status for tonight? It makes sense that they'd sit him against the Canes but you never know. I believe I read over at EN that Goligoski will be out tonight.
Via the Pens website.
Forwards
Talbot-Malkin-Guerin
Dupuis-Letestu-Fedotenko
Cooke-Staal-Kennedy
Rupp-Adams-Godard
Bummer. Thanks.
#69
2009-12-07 11:40
Quoting PensFan2166:
Boom PensFan Delivers.
It is pretty sad that the MLS gets more air time on ESPN than the NHL.
The Apocalypse is totally going to happen because of this..
Quoting Steelcity83:i think the nhl should do something with espn better then a 2 min highlight reel...
Perhaps, but ESPN would need a TV deal in place with the NHL first. And the reason their isn't a deal in place is because coming out of the lockout, ESPN wasn't about to give the NHL a deal worth even 10% of what they had before the lockout. So until the new Comcast/Versus/NBC media conglomerate gets huge, competes with ESPN, and brings hockey to the forefront of the average sports fan's consciousness, ESPN probably won't budge from their "fuck the NHL" stance.
Boom PensFan Delivers.
It is pretty sad that the MLS gets more air time on ESPN than the NHL.
The Apocalypse is totally going to happen because of this..
#70
2009-12-07 11:42
and that just really sucks...i really believe the NHL can be bigger then most sports if given the chance...i'm always looking forward for a hockey game...
#71
2009-12-07 11:43
Quoting dying alive:
BUmmer Sid is out and the top two lines are a mess but I love the Third and fourth lines. Been my personal favorite's this season. They don't score a ton but holy grit and determination Batman! Err, I mean Bettman.
Quoting Russ Muffin:Quoting dying alive:Has anyone heard an update on Sid's status for tonight? It makes sense that they'd sit him against the Canes but you never know. I believe I read over at EN that Goligoski will be out tonight.
Via the Pens website.
Forwards
Talbot-Malkin-Guerin
Dupuis-Letestu-Fedotenko
Cooke-Staal-Kennedy
Rupp-Adams-Godard
Bummer. Thanks.
BUmmer Sid is out and the top two lines are a mess but I love the Third and fourth lines. Been my personal favorite's this season. They don't score a ton but holy grit and determination Batman! Err, I mean Bettman.
#72
2009-12-07 11:48
I'm old school....or at least old, so I don't favor renaming the awards. Rather, I'd like to see the NHL go back to the old conference and division names. We have two additional divisions since then, so name those the (Bob) Johnson and (Herb) Brooks divisions.
#74
2009-12-07 11:50
Quoting Peff D:
You honestly believe the name of a trophy means fuck all to the ever popular 'casual fan'? Changing the names of the trophies is not going to garner a new audience. All it's going to do is piss off people who DO care what the trophies are called. Plus if a trophy is ever named after Wayne Gretzky, I might puke.
On fallenofficerbl og
Quote:
Well nothing except a paycheck and benefits right? It is sad when anyone is shot and killed. I hope his family and those close to him find comfort, but let's not act like police officers are volunteers that want nothing more than safety for everyone. They are police for the same reason we all have jobs. To make money. Some jobs are more dangerous than others. Doesn't mean a police officer deserves it because he knew what he 'signed up for'.
About the trophies, adapt or die.
We need to find a way to make it relevant to draw people in (describing it in a way that is meaningful; scoring, mvp, defensive, etc.), if we expect to get more attention to the sport, and more time getting legitimate highlights on sports programs, etc.
You honestly believe the name of a trophy means fuck all to the ever popular 'casual fan'? Changing the names of the trophies is not going to garner a new audience. All it's going to do is piss off people who DO care what the trophies are called. Plus if a trophy is ever named after Wayne Gretzky, I might puke.
On fallenofficerbl og
Quote:
They don't do their job for themselves, but do it to protect the people of this city, and they ask for nothing in return.
Well nothing except a paycheck and benefits right? It is sad when anyone is shot and killed. I hope his family and those close to him find comfort, but let's not act like police officers are volunteers that want nothing more than safety for everyone. They are police for the same reason we all have jobs. To make money. Some jobs are more dangerous than others. Doesn't mean a police officer deserves it because he knew what he 'signed up for'.
#75
2009-12-07 11:50
Quoting Pen_City:
You may live to see that. Not me though. Again, I'm old, and I don't take very good care of myself.
The Stanley Cup presented by Gold Bond Menthol Medicated Powder
You may live to see that. Not me though. Again, I'm old, and I don't take very good care of myself.
#77
2009-12-07 11:57
Quoting Russ Muffin:
"I don't hate cops. . .I just like it better when they're not around."
Mickey Rourke from "Barfly"
I need you to rent this movie now. Huge. Thanks.
Quoting Birdman27:Quoting meecrofilm:Quoting Birdman27:Quoting TheFandangler:Quoting revoWOOOtion:a police officer was shot in penn hills this evening, my hometown. thoughts and prayers.
He's a cop... That's what they sign up for. Most of them think it's a free ride...
Amen
So, what..... It doesn't merit a period of mourning then? I suppose we shouldn't mourn for soldiers who die in battle--that's what they sign up for.
Not on here chief. This is a hockey blog. I'm sure Sarah Palin has a blog, follow that one.
See, now this pisses me off.
For the 3 years I have been a cblogger nothing pisses me off me than this right here. CBlog members have talked about everything thing on here. We can job Raven[******] joke city, Roethlisberger, the Pittsburgh Pirates. We can have fun with protesters during the G20 summit. Republicans and Democrats and job each other on here during the elections. We can talk about Tiger Woods having 9 mistresses, basically anything "non-hockey related" and it doesn't matter. But just because someone asks for prayer Jokes have to job them.
Shit man I wonder what you would of said if you saw the trucks outside of the mellon during the playoffs last year selling the t-shirts of the 3 fallen cops from Stanton Heights. "Sorry Guys you can't sell these shirts because this is a place of hockey. Why dont you go down to a Sarah Palin Convention."
Quote:Not on here chief. This is a hockey blog. I'm sure Sarah Palin has a blog, follow that one.
What a joke you are Chief. Go read a Linda Cohn hockey blog.
"I don't hate cops. . .I just like it better when they're not around."
Mickey Rourke from "Barfly"
I need you to rent this movie now. Huge. Thanks.
#78
2009-12-07 12:07
Hockey anyone??
From the Pens site.
10:37 AM:
The Penguins had a full house at their Monday morning skate as every player on the roster participated. Injured players Sidney Crosby (groin), Chris Kunitz (lower body) and Alex Goligoski (lower body) all took the ice.
Crosby's status is currently unknown for tonight's showdown with the Carolina Hurricanes and it is unlikely that either Kunitz or Goligoski will play, since it is their first time back on the ice following injuries.
From the Pens site.
10:37 AM:
The Penguins had a full house at their Monday morning skate as every player on the roster participated. Injured players Sidney Crosby (groin), Chris Kunitz (lower body) and Alex Goligoski (lower body) all took the ice.
Crosby's status is currently unknown for tonight's showdown with the Carolina Hurricanes and it is unlikely that either Kunitz or Goligoski will play, since it is their first time back on the ice following injuries.
#81
2009-12-07 12:11
Quoting akus:
and I thank you for a hockey update, akus.
Hockey anyone??
From the Pens site.
10:37 AM:
The Penguins had a full house at their Monday morning skate as every player on the roster participated. Injured players Sidney Crosby (groin), Chris Kunitz (lower body) and Alex Goligoski (lower body) all took the ice.
Crosby's status is currently unknown for tonight's showdown with the Carolina Hurricanes and it is unlikely that either Kunitz or Goligoski will play, since it is their first time back on the ice following injuries.
and I thank you for a hockey update, akus.
#82
2009-12-07 12:15
Quote:
Unfortunately never have heard of this movie. I have IMDB'd it. Defiantly going to put it in my Netflix queue tonight. Mickey Rourke as a Poet who get fucking wasted every night? This movie had better of won an award.
"I don't hate cops. . .I just like it better when they're not around." Mickey Rourke from "Barfly" I need you to rent this movie now. Huge. Thanks.
Unfortunately never have heard of this movie. I have IMDB'd it. Defiantly going to put it in my Netflix queue tonight. Mickey Rourke as a Poet who get fucking wasted every night? This movie had better of won an award.
#84
2009-12-07 12:19
Quoting Electra_Glide:
This is from a Philly paper.
Quote:
The more i read that the harder i laugh.
Carcillo getting four games???
Seems like the league did the Flyers a favor.
This is from a Philly paper.
Quote:
One of the best things that came out of Saturday's loss was that it might be remembered as the night Mike Richards embraced his captaincy. Usually quiet and reserved, Richards took control in the locker room after the game. He had a sit-down with Carcillo and told him he had to play with more discipline. "All I can do is hold people accountable here, and I don't think it's going to be a problem anymore," Richards said of the foolish Carcillo penalties.
The more i read that the harder i laugh.
#85
2009-12-07 12:24
trade Staal. Look at what King Shero is saying about him. The goal is the one to tie it up against the Blackhawks
"Maybe that's not a goal he scores a year ago," general manager Ray Shero said. "He's scored some big goals for us over the last few years, and maybe that (shorthanded goal in Game 4 of the Stanley Cup Final) was for him a case of: 'Wow, I can do it!'
"You're starting to see that again now. He's in the right place. He's creating things. He's hard to handle. That part of his game is coming, and the best part is (that) he's got room to grow."
pittsburghlive.com/.../...
"Maybe that's not a goal he scores a year ago," general manager Ray Shero said. "He's scored some big goals for us over the last few years, and maybe that (shorthanded goal in Game 4 of the Stanley Cup Final) was for him a case of: 'Wow, I can do it!'
"You're starting to see that again now. He's in the right place. He's creating things. He's hard to handle. That part of his game is coming, and the best part is (that) he's got room to grow."
pittsburghlive.com/.../...
#86
2009-12-07 12:25
Quoting akus:
Anybody else remember when Philly fans used to tell us how much Crosby sucked as a captain and how Mike Richards was what a real young captain should be? And how the Pens would never win anything with that sissy diver because nobody respected him, but Richards had the respect of everyone on his team? And how they used to thank baby jesus that they had a real leader like Mike "Canon" Richards and not that crybaby Cindy?
Me too. And it still makes me laugh.
This is from a Philly paper.
Quote:One of the best things that came out of Saturday's loss was that it might be remembered as the night Mike Richards embraced his captaincy. Usually quiet and reserved, Richards took control in the locker room after the game. He had a sit-down with Carcillo and told him he had to play with more discipline. "All I can do is hold people accountable here, and I don't think it's going to be a problem anymore," Richards said of the foolish Carcillo penalties.
The more i read that the harder i laugh.
Anybody else remember when Philly fans used to tell us how much Crosby sucked as a captain and how Mike Richards was what a real young captain should be? And how the Pens would never win anything with that sissy diver because nobody respected him, but Richards had the respect of everyone on his team? And how they used to thank baby jesus that they had a real leader like Mike "Canon" Richards and not that crybaby Cindy?
Me too. And it still makes me laugh.
#87
2009-12-07 12:30
supposedly the officer was ambushed and shot while he sat in his car and was waiting for back up. he really deserved that one, huh? by responding to gun shots in an effort to protect the neighborhood where it was happening. what a horrible human, right?
anywho... crosby is out again? there goes the faceoff percentage...
anywho... crosby is out again? there goes the faceoff percentage...
#88
2009-12-07 12:31
Quoting PensFan2166:
Do not besmirch the good name of Tahir Domi. He may not have been Pat Verbeek, but for the role that he played in Toronto, he was still usually good for 20-30 points a season.
Fun fact about Tie Domi: he assisted on the goal that gave Teemu Selanne the rookie goal scoring record.
I agree completely with this sentiment. Award it to the player with the highest point-per-game average after hitting a minimum number of points and PIMs.
[EDIT] Except I'd call it the Pat Verbeek Trophy or something because Tie Domi could barely skate let alone play hockey.
Do not besmirch the good name of Tahir Domi. He may not have been Pat Verbeek, but for the role that he played in Toronto, he was still usually good for 20-30 points a season.
Fun fact about Tie Domi: he assisted on the goal that gave Teemu Selanne the rookie goal scoring record.
#89
2009-12-07 12:34
@Mario=God,
I am not sure those are the lines for tonight.
They repost the same lines from the game before, until it gets closer to game time.
So those lines were from the Chicago game.
I would not be surprised to see BJ in goal tonight.
I am not sure those are the lines for tonight.
They repost the same lines from the game before, until it gets closer to game time.
So those lines were from the Chicago game.
I would not be surprised to see BJ in goal tonight.
#90
2009-12-07 12:34
The NHL should stop attempting to eliminate all vesitges of its history in an attempt to get people who dont watch the sport and never will to change their minds and decide to watch Versus on Monday nights. Keep it the way it is
#92
2009-12-07 12:35
Quoting revoWOOOtion:
And if all it takes is one HUGE face-off to win.....DO It.Testy.
anywho... crosby is out again? there goes the faceoff percentage...
And if all it takes is one HUGE face-off to win.....DO It.Testy.
#93
2009-12-07 12:37
Quoting igloo71:
WOO! i think he would have made a difference in the bhawks game... at least in the faceoff circles. glad to have him back. so how does this shape the lines?
cooke-crosby-guerin? just throwing that out there...
sids back tonight penguins.nhl.com/.../...
WOO! i think he would have made a difference in the bhawks game... at least in the faceoff circles. glad to have him back. so how does this shape the lines?
cooke-crosby-guerin? just throwing that out there...
#94
2009-12-07 12:38
Quoting igloo71:
Sid?? Tell me what days you rested?
Was it really Max in the 87 scoring the points the past few games?
sids back tonight penguins.nhl.com/.../...
Sid?? Tell me what days you rested?
Was it really Max in the 87 scoring the points the past few games?
#95
2009-12-07 12:46
Quoting revoWOOOtion:
I don't think HCDB will break up the good thing he has going with Cooke-Staal-Kennedy unless he absolutely has to. That line may not be the biggest scoring threat on the team, but it is a consistent line in terms of cycling and controlling the puck in the offensive zone - probably the most consistent line on the team in that regard.
so how does this shape the lines?
cooke-crosby-guerin? just throwing that out there...
I don't think HCDB will break up the good thing he has going with Cooke-Staal-Kennedy unless he absolutely has to. That line may not be the biggest scoring threat on the team, but it is a consistent line in terms of cycling and controlling the puck in the offensive zone - probably the most consistent line on the team in that regard.
#96
2009-12-07 12:54
I hope Sid isn't rushing back...
but he knows what he is doin. 7 goals for him tonight count it
but he knows what he is doin. 7 goals for him tonight count it
#97
2009-12-07 13:04
I swear to God all of these lower body injuries going around is just Alyonka with a case of crabs. Please get that taken care of. Your fucking the team over.... literally.
#98
2009-12-07 13:16
Listening to NHL Live, i actually gave EJ Hradek an imaginary h5^.
If he was in Philly, he would give Carcillo a note saying, Thanks,but there is the door. He sited the Shhh game and what he did with Bradley.
But as Hradek said, Philly still thinks it is 1975 and they won't do it.
If he was in Philly, he would give Carcillo a note saying, Thanks,but there is the door. He sited the Shhh game and what he did with Bradley.
But as Hradek said, Philly still thinks it is 1975 and they won't do it.
#99
2009-12-07 13:22
Quoting PensFan2166:
Truth.
That line ends lives.
They are the best puck-possession combination the Penguins have, and create an absolute nightmare scenario for the opposing coaching staff when trying to figure out what to do with their top-line assets.
Also, after looking at the Pen's game-day report on their website, am I the only one who secretly wishes that Carolina would fire their entire coaching staff in the hopes that Ron Francis could somehow find his way onto the Pittsburgh coaching staff?
I don't think HCDB will break up the good thing he has going with Cooke-Staal-Kennedy unless he absolutely has to.
Truth.
That line ends lives.
They are the best puck-possession combination the Penguins have, and create an absolute nightmare scenario for the opposing coaching staff when trying to figure out what to do with their top-line assets.
Also, after looking at the Pen's game-day report on their website, am I the only one who secretly wishes that Carolina would fire their entire coaching staff in the hopes that Ron Francis could somehow find his way onto the Pittsburgh coaching staff?
#100
2009-12-07 13:25
Quoting akus:
..... and that is why our square-headed neighbors across the state in West Jersey will never understand:
proof is that they are more-interested defending Carcillo, than asking why they got blown-out in Lav's 1st game behind the bench
STAY-THIRSTY, my Philthadelphian s!!!!!
Listening to NHL Live, i actually gave EJ Hradek an imaginary h5^.
If he was in Philly, he would give Carcillo a note saying, Thanks,but there is the door. He sited the Shhh game and what he did with Bradley.
But as Hradek said, Philly still thinks it is 1975 and they won't do it.
..... and that is why our square-headed neighbors across the state in West Jersey will never understand:
proof is that they are more-interested defending Carcillo, than asking why they got blown-out in Lav's 1st game behind the bench
STAY-THIRSTY, my Philthadelphian s!!!!!
#101
2009-12-07 13:34
Quoting Russ Muffin:
Meh, have the training staff stock razors, shaving cream, and some special shampoo. Done.
I swear to God all of these lower body injuries going around is just Alyonka with a case of crabs. Please get that taken care of. Your fucking the team over.... literally.
Meh, have the training staff stock razors, shaving cream, and some special shampoo. Done.
#103
2009-12-07 13:37
hmmmmmmmm.. I can currently buy 8 tickets together for the Pens game here in DC on March 24th...... Thinking about doing it, although it would hit my credit card hard for right now.
hmmmmm
hmmmmm
#105
2009-12-07 13:42
The NHL needs to be using all of its resources to sign another (better) TV contract with a national network. Then they can investigate this award renaming shit. Mmmkay?
#106
2009-12-07 13:43
Between copshootingblog and Phillydouchebag blog, I almost forgot to pause for a moment of remembrance on the 68th anniversary of the Germans bombing Pearl Harbor.
#107
2009-12-07 13:43
It's nice to hear that Kunitz is skating again, too. Bob Grove talked about it last week and made it sound like Kunitz may have been a couple of weeks away from lacing 'em up, so that's good. Be nice to get him back before Christmas if possible.
#109
2009-12-07 13:46
Quoting shuvel55:
Do it...you won't do it.
hmmmmmmmm.. I can currently buy 8 tickets together for the Pens game here in DC on March 24th...... Thinking about doing it, although it would hit my credit card hard for right now.
hmmmmm
Do it...you won't do it.
#110
2009-12-07 13:48
Quoting Electra_Glide:
Who's with me?????
I almost forgot to pause for a moment of remembrance on the 68th anniversary of the Germans bombing Pearl Harbor.
Who's with me?????
#111
2009-12-07 13:54
Quoting The Skating Penguin:
I say fuck the Cops, Soldiers, and Pearl Harbor. We need to take some time out of the day to remember John Belushi.
Cause you know. There is always going to be a Sarah Palin blog for all of that other non hockey stuff.
Quoting Electra_Glide:I almost forgot to pause for a moment of remembrance on the 68th anniversary of the Germans bombing Pearl Harbor.
Who's with me?????
I say fuck the Cops, Soldiers, and Pearl Harbor. We need to take some time out of the day to remember John Belushi.
Cause you know. There is always going to be a Sarah Palin blog for all of that other non hockey stuff.
#112
2009-12-07 14:07
Quoting dying alive:
Completely agree. The NHL is constantly putting the cart before the horse with things like this.
It's stuff like this that makes me wonder about Bettman sometimes. I was watching the Habs' 100th Anniversary pregame the other night - talk about Chillsblog - and at one point, the camera cut to a shot of Bettman standing near the ice. There's this ridiculous array of talent on the ice - Lafleur, Beliveau, Roy, Dryden, all of these old Canadiens players. I'm not even a huge Habs fan, and I'm blown away watching this.
They kept the camera on Bettman for probably 10 or 15 seconds, and he just had this blank, empty stare. He looked like he had no idea where he was, why he was there, who all these players were and why everyone was cheering. I really wonder how much he really understands what the history of the game means to its core fanbase.
I'm not saying he needed to fawn all over the event or come out dressed in a Habs jersey. But there's a world of difference when you listen to him talk about the NHL and then listen to Roger Goodell talk about the NFL or David Stern talk about the NBA. It's two completely different things. You can tell which ones were fans of the game before they ascended to their current positions of power, and one of them definitely doesn't seem to be Bettman.
I'm curious as to how changing the name of the awards is going to bring in new fans and/or make the sport more relevant, anyway. Howe, Gretzky, Lemieux...last I checked, none of those guys were still playing. Yeah, it'll please some fans who are already watching the sport, but why is some schmoe who's never seen a hockey game going to care that there's an award named after some dude who played for the Red Wings 30 years ago? In what way is that going to draw people in and make the sport more relevant?
You want to make the sport more relevant, get a decent tv deal on a network that people actually have access to. Learn to market the sport better and to a wider audience. Changing the names of awards isn't going to do a damn thing.
Completely agree. The NHL is constantly putting the cart before the horse with things like this.
It's stuff like this that makes me wonder about Bettman sometimes. I was watching the Habs' 100th Anniversary pregame the other night - talk about Chillsblog - and at one point, the camera cut to a shot of Bettman standing near the ice. There's this ridiculous array of talent on the ice - Lafleur, Beliveau, Roy, Dryden, all of these old Canadiens players. I'm not even a huge Habs fan, and I'm blown away watching this.
They kept the camera on Bettman for probably 10 or 15 seconds, and he just had this blank, empty stare. He looked like he had no idea where he was, why he was there, who all these players were and why everyone was cheering. I really wonder how much he really understands what the history of the game means to its core fanbase.
I'm not saying he needed to fawn all over the event or come out dressed in a Habs jersey. But there's a world of difference when you listen to him talk about the NHL and then listen to Roger Goodell talk about the NFL or David Stern talk about the NBA. It's two completely different things. You can tell which ones were fans of the game before they ascended to their current positions of power, and one of them definitely doesn't seem to be Bettman.
#113
2009-12-07 14:21
Oh boy I had to share this...
Some idiot at Puck Daddy actually said this in regards to an article by Ryan 'Two Line Pass' Lambert. The topic was the Flyers hiring Laviolette...
Quote:
Baaaahahahahaha haha. Funniest damn thing I've read in a while.
Some idiot at Puck Daddy actually said this in regards to an article by Ryan 'Two Line Pass' Lambert. The topic was the Flyers hiring Laviolette...
Quote:
The Flyers didn't hire the best guy out there. What about Eddie Olczyk?
Baaaahahahahaha haha. Funniest damn thing I've read in a while.
#114
2009-12-07 14:30
Quoting Stilly:
I hear Mike Milbury and Pierre McGuire are available to coach too.
Oh boy I had to share this...
Some idiot at Puck Daddy actually said this in regards to an article by Ryan 'Two Line Pass' Lambert. The topic was the Flyers hiring Laviolette...
Quote:The Flyers didn't hire the best guy out there. What about Eddie Olczyk?
Baaaahahahahaha haha. Funniest damn thing I've read in a while.
I hear Mike Milbury and Pierre McGuire are available to coach too.
#115
2009-12-07 14:31
Quoting Stoosh:
To be honest, at this point I probably would have had the same expression. I'm all for celebrating the past of hockey but my god, how long is this 100th anniversary thing going to go on for? I get that it's supposed to be 2009 or whatever, but they started this at the beginning of last season ffs. OK yeah, it's great, 100 years. Certainly something to be proud of. They undoubtedly have the most storied players of all time, but come off it already.
I was watching the Habs' 100th Anniversary pregame the other night - talk about Chillsblog - and at one point, the camera cut to a shot of Bettman standing near the ice. There's this ridiculous array of talent on the ice - Lafleur, Beliveau, Roy, Dryden, all of these old Canadiens players. I'm not even a huge Habs fan, and I'm blown away watching this.
They kept the camera on Bettman for probably 10 or 15 seconds, and he just had this blank, empty stare. He looked like he had no idea where he was, why he was there, who all these players were and why everyone was cheering. I really wonder how much he really understands what the history of the game means to its core fanbase.
I'm not saying he needed to fawn all over the event or come out dressed in a Habs jersey. But there's a world of difference when you listen to him talk about the NHL and then listen to Roger Goodell talk about the NFL or David Stern talk about the NBA. It's two completely different things. You can tell which ones were fans of the game before they ascended to their current positions of power, and one of them definitely doesn't seem to be Bettman.
To be honest, at this point I probably would have had the same expression. I'm all for celebrating the past of hockey but my god, how long is this 100th anniversary thing going to go on for? I get that it's supposed to be 2009 or whatever, but they started this at the beginning of last season ffs. OK yeah, it's great, 100 years. Certainly something to be proud of. They undoubtedly have the most storied players of all time, but come off it already.
#116
2009-12-07 14:36
Quote:
Prepare to be supremely depressed. Never watch that shit during a Pens losing streak or people will blame that instead of that monumentally depressing fucking movie.
@PensFan2166: Milbury is holding out for a GM job. Hopefully he can take over for Holmgren when he gets canned.
Unfortunately never have heard of this movie. I have IMDB'd it. Defiantly going to put it in my Netflix queue tonight. Mickey Rourke as a Poet who get fucking wasted every night? This movie had better of won an award
Prepare to be supremely depressed. Never watch that shit during a Pens losing streak or people will blame that instead of that monumentally depressing fucking movie.
@PensFan2166: Milbury is holding out for a GM job. Hopefully he can take over for Holmgren when he gets canned.
#118
2009-12-07 14:40
Quoting Stilly:
Even funnier is reading the Flyers and Caps fans bicker in the post about Carcillo's suspension. Comedy gold.
Oh boy I had to share this...
Some idiot at Puck Daddy actually said this in regards to an article by Ryan 'Two Line Pass' Lambert. The topic was the Flyers hiring Laviolette...
Quote:The Flyers didn't hire the best guy out there. What about Eddie Olczyk?
Baaaahahahahaha haha. Funniest damn thing I've read in a while.
Even funnier is reading the Flyers and Caps fans bicker in the post about Carcillo's suspension. Comedy gold.
#120
2009-12-07 14:47
Quoting darthaggie:
and then it could be wrongly engraved as the Batman Cup
What's next? Stanley Cup -> Bettman Cup??
and then it could be wrongly engraved as the Batman Cup
#121
2009-12-07 14:51
Quoting darthaggie:
I know it's a joke, but I don't think the NHL would ever attempt to rename the Stanley Cup. Even sports fans who know nothing about hockey know what the Stanley Cup is - at least amongst those I've met. Besides, unless the trustees of the Stanley Cup approve it, the NHL can do nothing to/with the Stanley Cup.
What's next? Stanley Cup -> Bettman Cup??
I know it's a joke, but I don't think the NHL would ever attempt to rename the Stanley Cup. Even sports fans who know nothing about hockey know what the Stanley Cup is - at least amongst those I've met. Besides, unless the trustees of the Stanley Cup approve it, the NHL can do nothing to/with the Stanley Cup.
#122
2009-12-07 14:53
Quoting Rage:
I love when the guys on the HNIC studio show job him about not being a GM. I think it was Al Strachan who I once heard say, "maybe some day another NHL team will want you to trade away all their legit young talent..." Milbury was super-mega-pissed after that.
@PensFan2166: Milbury is holding out for a GM job. Hopefully he can take over for Holmgren when he gets canned.
I love when the guys on the HNIC studio show job him about not being a GM. I think it was Al Strachan who I once heard say, "maybe some day another NHL team will want you to trade away all their legit young talent..." Milbury was super-mega-pissed after that.
#123
2009-12-07 14:57
Quote:
Sweet Jeebus, there MUST be a youtube of THAT...off I go...
I think it was Al Strachan who I once heard say, "maybe some day another NHL team will want you to trade away all their legit young talent..." Milbury was super-mega-pissed after that.
Sweet Jeebus, there MUST be a youtube of THAT...off I go...
#124
2009-12-07 15:01
Quoting Rage:
I think it was 2 seasons ago - and it was something along those lines (if I didn't remember the exact words). Milbury tried to laugh it off but had a "fuck you" death stare and within about 5 seconds of trying to chuckle, he tried to blast Strachan (I am about 95% sure it was Strachan), but everyone at the table knew he'd been owned. There are some slams one just cannot recover from.
Quote:I think it was Al Strachan who I once heard say, "maybe some day another NHL team will want you to trade away all their legit young talent..." Milbury was super-mega-pissed after that.
Sweet Jeebus, there MUST be a youtube of THAT...off I go...
I think it was 2 seasons ago - and it was something along those lines (if I didn't remember the exact words). Milbury tried to laugh it off but had a "fuck you" death stare and within about 5 seconds of trying to chuckle, he tried to blast Strachan (I am about 95% sure it was Strachan), but everyone at the table knew he'd been owned. There are some slams one just cannot recover from.
#125
2009-12-07 15:11
Please forgive me. But I have to post this again. It never fails to make me laugh.
Hitler the Redwings Fan - Game 7 loss against the Pittsburgh Penguins
www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBJa7rmNVo0
Hitler the Redwings Fan - Game 7 loss against the Pittsburgh Penguins
www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBJa7rmNVo0
#127
2009-12-07 15:21
Quoting dying alive:
The NHL finally got around to suspending Ovechkin after countless infractions and instances of dirty and/or reckless play. By my estimates, Duncan Keith has an allowance of at least 4-5 more hits like that before the NHL will feel the need to fine and/or suspend him.
Good point, Seth.
community.post-gazette.com/.../...
The NHL finally got around to suspending Ovechkin after countless infractions and instances of dirty and/or reckless play. By my estimates, Duncan Keith has an allowance of at least 4-5 more hits like that before the NHL will feel the need to fine and/or suspend him.
#128
2009-12-07 15:46
Quoting dying alive:
I thought the same thing when I first heard about it - didn't they do all of this stuff last year?
From what I found out, the 100th Anniversary Celebration was designed to span the length of their 100th year in existence and then culminate on their 100th birthday, which was Friday night (team was founded Dec. 4, 1909). I think you're right...they whole thing lasted more than a year. But hey, this is the Montreal Canadiens - one of the most self-important organizations and fanbases in all of pro sports. Many of them believe the game wouldn't even exist without their franchise.
Quoting Stoosh:I was watching the Habs' 100th Anniversary pregame the other night - talk about Chillsblog - and at one point, the camera cut to a shot of Bettman standing near the ice. There's this ridiculous array of talent on the ice - Lafleur, Beliveau, Roy, Dryden, all of these old Canadiens players. I'm not even a huge Habs fan, and I'm blown away watching this.
They kept the camera on Bettman for probably 10 or 15 seconds, and he just had this blank, empty stare. He looked like he had no idea where he was, why he was there, who all these players were and why everyone was cheering. I really wonder how much he really understands what the history of the game means to its core fanbase.
I'm not saying he needed to fawn all over the event or come out dressed in a Habs jersey. But there's a world of difference when you listen to him talk about the NHL and then listen to Roger Goodell talk about the NFL or David Stern talk about the NBA. It's two completely different things. You can tell which ones were fans of the game before they ascended to their current positions of power, and one of them definitely doesn't seem to be Bettman.
To be honest, at this point I probably would have had the same expression. I'm all for celebrating the past of hockey but my god, how long is this 100th anniversary thing going to go on for? I get that it's supposed to be 2009 or whatever, but they started this at the beginning of last season ffs. OK yeah, it's great, 100 years. Certainly something to be proud of. They undoubtedly have the most storied players of all time, but come off it already.
I thought the same thing when I first heard about it - didn't they do all of this stuff last year?
From what I found out, the 100th Anniversary Celebration was designed to span the length of their 100th year in existence and then culminate on their 100th birthday, which was Friday night (team was founded Dec. 4, 1909). I think you're right...they whole thing lasted more than a year. But hey, this is the Montreal Canadiens - one of the most self-important organizations and fanbases in all of pro sports. Many of them believe the game wouldn't even exist without their franchise.
#129
2009-12-07 15:59
Quoting Stoosh:
I think what they fail to understand is that outside of Montreal and other Habs fans in Canada, nobody gives a damn. Or maybe that's not accurate - I think it's wonderful that they've been around 100 years and I have nothing but respect for a great many of the Habs of the past. But at the same time, I'm sick of having the Habs 100th anniversary crammed down my throat and the collective throats of the rest of the NHL. How many special jerseys, special ceremonies, and so on do the rest of us have to be subjected to? How many times do things like trying to vote all of their starters in the starting line-up of the ASG "because it's their 100th anniversary" and then being outraged because others try to vote in the players who actually belong there have to happen before somebody's eyes actually roll completely out of their skull? I mean holy christ, Habs fans are smug and self-important in a normal year, the way they've been puffing their chests for the past six years or however long this anniversary is dragging on is just taking the arrogance to previously unseen highs.
To sum up, good for you on your 100th anniversary. I hope you have 100 more. Now get the fuck out of here with it. And by the way, whoever thought it was a good idea to bring back those red, white and blue striped uniforms should be behind bars.
I thought the same thing when I first heard about it - didn't they do all of this stuff last year?
From what I found out, the 100th Anniversary Celebration was designed to span the length of their 100th year in existence and then culminate on their 100th birthday, which was Friday night (team was founded Dec. 4, 1909). I think you're right...they whole thing lasted more than a year. But hey, this is the Montreal Canadiens - one of the most self-important organizations and fanbases in all of pro sports. Many of them believe the game wouldn't even exist without their franchise.
I think what they fail to understand is that outside of Montreal and other Habs fans in Canada, nobody gives a damn. Or maybe that's not accurate - I think it's wonderful that they've been around 100 years and I have nothing but respect for a great many of the Habs of the past. But at the same time, I'm sick of having the Habs 100th anniversary crammed down my throat and the collective throats of the rest of the NHL. How many special jerseys, special ceremonies, and so on do the rest of us have to be subjected to? How many times do things like trying to vote all of their starters in the starting line-up of the ASG "because it's their 100th anniversary" and then being outraged because others try to vote in the players who actually belong there have to happen before somebody's eyes actually roll completely out of their skull? I mean holy christ, Habs fans are smug and self-important in a normal year, the way they've been puffing their chests for the past six years or however long this anniversary is dragging on is just taking the arrogance to previously unseen highs.
To sum up, good for you on your 100th anniversary. I hope you have 100 more. Now get the fuck out of here with it. And by the way, whoever thought it was a good idea to bring back those red, white and blue striped uniforms should be behind bars.
#130
2009-12-07 16:03
Quote:
Oh really, Sid?
“With groins, you are always kind of feeling them during the season. I feel good enough to play.”
Oh really, Sid?
#131
2009-12-07 16:09
Quoting darthaggie:
The Giant Champange Sippy Cup.
What's next? Stanley Cup -> Bettman Cup??
The Giant Champange Sippy Cup.
#132
2009-12-07 16:23
Quoting dying alive:
You forgot to say something about pea soup. ;)
To sum up, good for you on your 100th anniversary. I hope you have 100 more. Now get the fuck out of here with it. And by the way, whoever thought it was a good idea to bring back those red, white and blue striped uniforms should be behind bars.
You forgot to say something about pea soup. ;)
#133
2009-12-07 16:53
Quoting dying alive:
Very good points like usual.
I forgot about the whole routine they put on last year with the ASG voting until you mentioned it and now that I remember back to it, I think that highlights the point you made. The Habs fans/organization are kind of like the Yankees fans/organization in that regard - both have that ridiculous self-important sense of entitlement that allows them to justify things like this just because of who they are.
To a point, I guess all the history counts for something. But I think it reaches a saturation point and then it becomes too much. Take, for instance, the ridiculous promotional crap going on seemingly every Saturday night in Toronto, where they've gone era-by-era, basically drudged up every Leafs alum that can still walk, thrown a jersey on him and paraded him out in front of the Air Canada Centre crowd. Part of it feels like a half-hearted attempt to do what the Habs are doing, but most of it feels forced. Quite honestly, it's even worse than something the Pirates would do.
I thought the Legends Warm-up Skate in Montreal the other night was just unreal, though. I can only imagine getting to see the Pens doing something like that here during the closing reg. season game at Mellon.
Quoting Stoosh:I thought the same thing when I first heard about it - didn't they do all of this stuff last year?
From what I found out, the 100th Anniversary Celebration was designed to span the length of their 100th year in existence and then culminate on their 100th birthday, which was Friday night (team was founded Dec. 4, 1909). I think you're right...they whole thing lasted more than a year. But hey, this is the Montreal Canadiens - one of the most self-important organizations and fanbases in all of pro sports. Many of them believe the game wouldn't even exist without their franchise.
I think what they fail to understand is that outside of Montreal and other Habs fans in Canada, nobody gives a damn. Or maybe that's not accurate - I think it's wonderful that they've been around 100 years and I have nothing but respect for a great many of the Habs of the past. But at the same time, I'm sick of having the Habs 100th anniversary crammed down my throat and the collective throats of the rest of the NHL. How many special jerseys, special ceremonies, and so on do the rest of us have to be subjected to? How many times do things like trying to vote all of their starters in the starting line-up of the ASG "because it's their 100th anniversary" and then being outraged because others try to vote in the players who actually belong there have to happen before somebody's eyes actually roll completely out of their skull? I mean holy christ, Habs fans are smug and self-important in a normal year, the way they've been puffing their chests for the past six years or however long this anniversary is dragging on is just taking the arrogance to previously unseen highs.
To sum up, good for you on your 100th anniversary. I hope you have 100 more. Now get the fuck out of here with it. And by the way, whoever thought it was a good idea to bring back those red, white and blue striped uniforms should be behind bars.
Very good points like usual.
I forgot about the whole routine they put on last year with the ASG voting until you mentioned it and now that I remember back to it, I think that highlights the point you made. The Habs fans/organization are kind of like the Yankees fans/organization in that regard - both have that ridiculous self-important sense of entitlement that allows them to justify things like this just because of who they are.
To a point, I guess all the history counts for something. But I think it reaches a saturation point and then it becomes too much. Take, for instance, the ridiculous promotional crap going on seemingly every Saturday night in Toronto, where they've gone era-by-era, basically drudged up every Leafs alum that can still walk, thrown a jersey on him and paraded him out in front of the Air Canada Centre crowd. Part of it feels like a half-hearted attempt to do what the Habs are doing, but most of it feels forced. Quite honestly, it's even worse than something the Pirates would do.
I thought the Legends Warm-up Skate in Montreal the other night was just unreal, though. I can only imagine getting to see the Pens doing something like that here during the closing reg. season game at Mellon.
#134
2009-12-07 16:53
Quoting 24SesameStreet:
I used to troll through there, but lately I have been getting a "server hangup" when I try to post a comment, so I've been less and less drawn to bicker with and attempt to engage the other fools. It's funny how reasonable a lot of the folks there are other than the caps and redwing fans. Even the flyer peeps aren't that bad until they get called for another undeserved penalty or suspension. Then they get more paranoid than if they had smoked the cross-joint from Pineapple Express.
I'm not sure my brain could take another visit through a PD comment section.
I used to troll through there, but lately I have been getting a "server hangup" when I try to post a comment, so I've been less and less drawn to bicker with and attempt to engage the other fools. It's funny how reasonable a lot of the folks there are other than the caps and redwing fans. Even the flyer peeps aren't that bad until they get called for another undeserved penalty or suspension. Then they get more paranoid than if they had smoked the cross-joint from Pineapple Express.
#135
2009-12-07 16:56
Quoting Stoosh:
At least we can all take solace in knowing this is something the Red Wings will never be able to do.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOO!
Take, for instance, the ridiculous promotional crap going on seemingly every Saturday night in Toronto, where they've gone era-by-era, basically drudged up every Leafs alum that can still walk, thrown a jersey on him and paraded him out in front of the Air Canada Centre crowd.
At least we can all take solace in knowing this is something the Red Wings will never be able to do.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOO!
#136
2009-12-07 16:59
Quoting Stoosh:
Oh, don't even get me started on the Leafs. It does seem like they have some kind of "We're Awesome" ceremony before every game.
On the topic, has anyone ever seen/heard the theme song that plays before Maple Leafs games? Some garbage about Canada's dream and Canada's team, complete with videos of celebrating Leafs players and joyous Canadians celebrating the legacy of the most important team in the whole wide world? It's only slightly more subtle than a WWII-era propaganda film. The first time I saw it I just sat there, open mouthed, in total disbelief of what I was seeing. I actually was afraid my jaw was going to come unhinged. I'd find it on youtube but I am foiled by the firewall.
Take, for instance, the ridiculous promotional crap going on seemingly every Saturday night in Toronto, where they've gone era-by-era, basically drudged up every Leafs alum that can still walk, thrown a jersey on him and paraded him out in front of the Air Canada Centre crowd. Part of it feels like a half-hearted attempt to do what the Habs are doing, but most of it feels forced. Quite honestly, it's even worse than something the Pirates would do.
Oh, don't even get me started on the Leafs. It does seem like they have some kind of "We're Awesome" ceremony before every game.
On the topic, has anyone ever seen/heard the theme song that plays before Maple Leafs games? Some garbage about Canada's dream and Canada's team, complete with videos of celebrating Leafs players and joyous Canadians celebrating the legacy of the most important team in the whole wide world? It's only slightly more subtle than a WWII-era propaganda film. The first time I saw it I just sat there, open mouthed, in total disbelief of what I was seeing. I actually was afraid my jaw was going to come unhinged. I'd find it on youtube but I am foiled by the firewall.
#137
2009-12-07 17:05
Quoting PensFan2166:
Dude. . .
I lol'd.
At least we can all take solace in knowing this is something the Red Wings will never be able to do.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOO!
Dude. . .
I lol'd.
#138
2009-12-07 17:08
Do you guys think anyone in Philly realizes their problem might not be the coaches? Since the Bobby and Paul show started the Flyers ain't done squat.
#139
2009-12-07 17:13
Quoting The Missing Piece:
Well, given that he said this when Charlie interviewed him, I think we can safely assume that "you" refers directly to the interviewer, not so much as a nonspecific 3rd-person subject.
Quote:“With groins, you are always kind of feeling them during the season. I feel good enough to play.”
Oh really, Sid?
Well, given that he said this when Charlie interviewed him, I think we can safely assume that "you" refers directly to the interviewer, not so much as a nonspecific 3rd-person subject.
#140
2009-12-07 17:14
Quote:
Only because I have mad love:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYnkzWTjQr4
It's so ghey
I actually was afraid my jaw was going to come unhinged. I'd find it on youtube but I am foiled by the firewall.
Only because I have mad love:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYnkzWTjQr4
It's so ghey
#142
2009-12-07 18:00
Quote:
awwweeesome
#141 PensArmy82 2009-12-07 16:34 anybody else see this? www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9kyTxpBlxs
awwweeesome
#143
2009-12-07 18:07
Quoting Rage:
Dear god, that's the one. So ridiculous.
Quote:I actually was afraid my jaw was going to come unhinged. I'd find it on youtube but I am foiled by the firewall.
Only because I have mad love:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYnkzWTjQr4
It's so ghey
Dear god, that's the one. So ridiculous.
#144
2009-12-07 18:10
Quoting twentyonein69:
...they have no vision. The guys don't care. They pretend to care, but I know they don't care.
Do you guys think anyone in Philly realizes their problem might not be the coaches? Since the Bobby and Paul show started the Flyers ain't done squat.
...they have no vision. The guys don't care. They pretend to care, but I know they don't care.
#145
2009-12-07 20:23
Quoting akus:
..... I so disappoin'..... about a lotsa guy..... very-disappoin'.....
..... because dey dohn car..... tonight, it's looks-likes mens agains boys.....
Quoting twentyonein69:Do you guys think anyone in Philly realizes their problem might not be the coaches? Since the Bobby and Paul show started the Flyers ain't done squat.
...they have no vision. The guys don't care. They pretend to care, but I know they don't care.
..... I so disappoin'..... about a lotsa guy..... very-disappoin'.....
..... because dey dohn car..... tonight, it's looks-likes mens agains boys.....
#146
2009-12-07 20:47
did you really need a Carcillo joke? oh man was that embarrassing, i was the only fan standing and cheering when hartnell put our second goal home... and i owe the girl i was with another game, since that was a f***ing joke, i went down with the ship so she had to do the same since i was her ride... atleast we got to meet Bernie Parent, Gary Dornhoefer, and Bob Hound Kelly...
#147
2009-12-15 14:35
Quoting PensFan2166:
Sorry so late...Kevin Stevens award.
Quoting meecrofilm:Quoting J.S.:Awards?
* The Tie Domi Trophy, for the player with the most penalty minutes.
Well I mean, they already give out an award for the player who is the most productive while accruing a small amount of penalty minutes... it'd be kinda funny to see who could be the most productive while getting a lot of penalties.
I agree completely with this sentiment. Award it to the player with the highest point-per-game average after hitting a minimum number of points and PIMs.
[EDIT] Except I'd call it the Pat Verbeek Trophy or something because Tie Domi could barely skate let alone play hockey.
Sorry so late...Kevin Stevens award.
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